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Author:  Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

vitoscotti wrote:
Why were the Cubs a better team than the White Sox (22 more wins)? The Cubs had great defense. And that's what the White Sox will seek.
-Bruce Levine

'23 errors & MLB most errors rank
95 White Sox 6th (Mid D only 9 more than Cubs)
92 Cubs 9th
57 Rangers 29th
56 D'backs 30th

Defensive metrics have moved beyond errors - if you are a lampshade at 2B you'll never have any errors because you won't get to any balls.

Defensive outs above average - infield
Cubs 28 - T1st; Dbacks and Rangers 23 - T4th, White Sox -9 - 19th

Defensive outs above average - outfield
Cubs -10 - 25th; Dbacks 12 - T3rd, Rangers 10 - T7th, White Sox T21

The Brewers, DBacks and Rangers had the top 3 for all defensive outs above average. Ian Happ had no business being a repeat Gold Glove LF.

Stats link: https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/leaderboard/outs_above_average

Author:  This Ends in Antioch [ Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024


Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

Not sure how recent that is. I do know that when Kenny and Hahn got fired, a number of people in the ticket office were let go as well.

Actively selling Sox tickets has to be a pretty hard gig come to think of it.

Author:  vitoscotti [ Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
vitoscotti wrote:
Why were the Cubs a better team than the White Sox (22 more wins)? The Cubs had great defense. And that's what the White Sox will seek.
-Bruce Levine

'23 errors & MLB most errors rank
95 White Sox 6th (Mid D only 9 more than Cubs)
92 Cubs 9th
57 Rangers 29th
56 D'backs 30th

Defensive metrics have moved beyond errors - if you are a lampshade at 2B you'll never have any errors because you won't get to any balls.

Defensive outs above average - infield
Cubs 28 - T1st; Dbacks and Rangers 23 - T4th, White Sox -9 - 19th

Defensive outs above average - outfield
Cubs -10 - 25th; Dbacks 12 - T3rd, Rangers 10 - T7th, White Sox T21

The Brewers, DBacks and Rangers had the top 3 for all defensive outs above average. Ian Happ had no business being a repeat Gold Glove LF.

Stats link: https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/leaderboard/outs_above_average

Did you watch the Cubs collapse in September? Errors passé?


Author:  Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

I've watched you be a fucking idiot here for the last five years.

Author:  Phil Leotardo [ Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
I've watched you be a fucking idiot here for the last five years.



This guy gets it.

Author:  blackhawksfan [ Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

Why isn't Michael Reinsdorf running the Sox too?

Author:  vitoscotti [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
I've watched you be a fucking idiot here for the last five years.

The RR celebration pictures explain your bitterness and why you feel the need to chronicle your life story on a message board.

Author:  Cashman [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

blackhawksfan wrote:
Why isn't Michael Reinsdorf running the Sox too?



I am not buying that he is some type of savior. This team needs to be sold.

Author:  Nas [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

Jason Benetti to the Tigers

Author:  This Ends in Antioch [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

Nas wrote:
Jason Benetti to the Tigers

I wish him well.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

Nas wrote:
Jason Benetti to the Tigers
Wow. local kid lands his dream job broadcasting for the team he grew up rooting for and then bails? Whoo boy . Bring back the Hawkeroo !!!

Author:  Nardi [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Nas wrote:
Jason Benetti to the Tigers

I wish him well.

Can he take Sox Math with him?

Author:  RFDC [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

Who wouldnt want to leave for such a wonderful city as Detroit.

Author:  Nardi [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

badrogue17 wrote:
Nas wrote:
Jason Benetti to the Tigers
Wow. local kid lands his dream job broadcasting for the team he grew up rooting for and then bails? Whoo boy . Bring back the Hawkeroo !!!

Hoping Len slides over.

Author:  RFDC [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

Len and Stoney would be a nice booth

Author:  Brick [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:19 am ]
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This is like our version of Craig Counsel. Bennetti is now disowned for leaving their home town team for a rival.

Author:  Nardi [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

If Stoney decides he needs to take off 1/3 of the season again, maybe he can go byebye too.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

RFDC wrote:
Len and Stoney would be a nice booth

I thought Len didn’t want to do TV anymore, that radio was where it’s at?

Author:  blackhawksfan [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

Jason was a freaking nerd. Get the fuck out of our town!!!

Author:  Nardi [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

Detroit will win the Central if they stay healthy.

Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

Nardi wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Nas wrote:
Jason Benetti to the Tigers
Wow. local kid lands his dream job broadcasting for the team he grew up rooting for and then bails? Whoo boy . Bring back the Hawkeroo !!!

Hoping Len slides over.


The official release said Len is staying on radio.

They'll probably hire Mike Huff or Gordon Beckham

Author:  casual fan [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

sjboyd0137 wrote:
They'll probably hire Mike Huff or Gordon Beckham


Beckham is so bad, but likely really cheap, so it probably will be him...

Author:  The Man [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

You can’t keep Stone and pair him with some bum. It was painful listening to him when Bennetti was out. Stone has to go as well.
So which broadcast will sound worse this year - Hawks or Sox?

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

The Benetti hate is over the top. He was fine. With Kasper staying on radio, whoever the Sox hire is very likely to be worse and even more vanilla. The biggest problem with the Sox TV booth is Stone IMO.

The Sox are beyond a dumpster fire. You have a guy with a disability who's dream was to call Sox games on TV. he busts his ass to get that exact job...and leaves for a division rival.

I'm growing to accept that its going to be the Charlotte or Nashville White Sox within the next ten years.

Author:  RFDC [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

Frank Coztansa wrote:
The Benetti hate is over the top. He was fine. With Kasper staying on radio, whoever the Sox hire is very likely to be worse and even more vanilla. The biggest problem with the Sox TV booth is Stone IMO.

The Sox are beyond a dumpster fire. You have a guy with a disability who's dream was to call Sox games on TV. he busts his ass to get that exact job...and leaves for a division rival.

I'm growing to accept that its going to be the Charlotte or Nashville White Sox within the next ten years.

good thoughts Frank.

We will always have the Cubs, buddy.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

Much like that idiot Schambi, Benetti is far better doing national games than home broadcasts .

Author:  This Ends in Antioch [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

Nardi wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Nas wrote:
Jason Benetti to the Tigers

I wish him well.

Can he take Sox Math with him?

The single worst thing in the history of the world?

Reinsdorf will probably replace Benetti with SoxMath AI.

Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

badrogue17 wrote:
Much like that idiot Schambi, Benetti is far better doing national games than home broadcasts .


I actually think his best work is on college football

Author:  Nardi [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: White Sox Off-Season 2023-2024

Frank Coztansa wrote:
The Benetti hate is over the top. He was fine. With Kasper staying on radio, whoever the Sox hire is very likely to be worse and even more vanilla. The biggest problem with the Sox TV booth is Stone IMO.

The Sox are beyond a dumpster fire. You have a guy with a disability who's dream was to call Sox games on TV. he busts his ass to get that exact job...and leaves for a division rival.

I'm growing to accept that its going to be the Charlotte or Nashville White Sox within the next ten years.

Well, Reinsdorf refuses to die and I wouldn't be a bit surprised his final fuck you to Sox fans would be to move.

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