It is currently Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:15 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 149 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:08 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 76984
Location: Chicago Heights
pizza_Place: Aurelio's
good dolphin wrote:
I guess its going to end up being a platoon of Jackson and some other player who can hit lefties well in CF.



They'll probably give Tilson the first crack if they don't get a guy from outside.

_________________
His mind is not for rent to any God or government.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:00 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:46 pm
Posts: 9932
pizza_Place: Q's Hillside
good dolphin wrote:
I guess its going to end up being a platoon of Jackson and some other player who can hit lefties well in CF.
They could go after Rajai Davis. Personally, I'd try and acquire Szuzur from the Cubs for a couple of young pitchers which don't have to go on the 40-man.

_________________
"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:55 am
Posts: 6468
pizza_Place: Giordano's
Who else is playing that might be on Kennys wish list? Griffey's ghost? Ichiro?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:28 am
Posts: 11792
Location: Winnetka, Illinois
pizza_Place: Lou Malnati's
good dolphin wrote:
It's been rumored that Cespedes will be opting out of his contract with the Mets. I'm going to assume wants to stay in NY and is using it to get more money out of them. He would fit with the Sox. However, this year signing him requires losing a draft pick.

I still think the better move is Fowler if the Cubs don't offer.


Well, both are available. But signing either would only serve to make the team better, but not good enough to contend. Better to trade away better players and get rid of high salaries and build with youth. The only problem with that, is the Sox have not shown a great ability to identify and develop talent, except for starting pitching.

_________________
Go Cubs!!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:46 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:02 pm
Posts: 11735
pizza_Place: Angelo's Pizza in Downers Grove
If Trump can win, so can the Sox.

#2017


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:52 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:15 pm
Posts: 16923
Hahn was on the score for 10 minutes and didn't say a god damn thing. Nothing but lawyer talk. It doesn't give you the warm and fuzzies when the GM is so guarded with his words and scared to death of saying anything of consequence.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:47 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:32 pm
Posts: 13865
Location: France
pizza_Place: Baranabyis
Looks like Lawrie may be going.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm
Posts: 55768
America wrote:
Looks like Lawrie may be going.

where?

_________________
"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."


Frank Coztansa wrote:
I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:41 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:32 pm
Posts: 13865
Location: France
pizza_Place: Baranabyis
I dont know, he purged all reference to the Sox out of his social media stuff. My guess is non-tender, he just cannot stay on the field.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:44 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 80062
How do you "dangle" Frazier and non tender Lawrie?

It seems pretty important to me to have a backup infielder who can play all positions, which is what Saladino can remain if they keep Lawrie.

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:10 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 101811
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
But if (when) Lawrie gets hurt, then Saladino becomes an everyday player.

_________________
ltg wrote:
[Fields will] be the starting QB on an NFL roster at the start of next season. Book It!
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:29 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:55 am
Posts: 6468
pizza_Place: Giordano's
America wrote:
Looks like Lawrie may be going.



Not a big fan of him.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:43 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 80062
Frank Coztansa wrote:
But if (when) Lawrie gets hurt, then Saladino becomes an everyday player.


Yes, that is typically what happens.

He has done a nice job in that situation the last two years.

I think it would be a waste not to bring Lawrie back in his last controlled year.

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:19 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:15 pm
Posts: 16923
Lawrie blows. Good riddance.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:22 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 101811
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
Keyser Soze wrote:
Lawrie blows. Good riddance.
They should go get Chase Utley!

_________________
ltg wrote:
[Fields will] be the starting QB on an NFL roster at the start of next season. Book It!
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:29 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:32 pm
Posts: 13865
Location: France
pizza_Place: Baranabyis
If Lawrie has a good first half (which he could easily have) his utilty as a 3B and 2B would have deadline value, and really unless the Sox manage to pry some stud like Moncada or Bregman in an offseason trade there is nobody really in Lawrie's way to get 1st half playing time. So I'm guessing there's a serious injury problem there if they do wind up cutting bait. Lawrie is not a bad player when healthy.

Also, trading Robertson and/or Jones in the offseason is a mistake. If Robertson has a hot start to the season he'll command a bounty in July. Think something just like the Ken Giles, Aroldis Chapman, Andrew Miller hauls...the risk of course being Robertson sucking more and being worthless but the opportunity is too great.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:31 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:29 pm
Posts: 38078
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
America wrote:
If Lawrie has a good first half (which he could easily have) his utilty as a 3B and 2B would have deadline value, and really unless the Sox manage to pry some stud like Moncada or Bregman in an offseason trade there is nobody really in Lawrie's way to get 1st half playing time. So I'm guessing there's a serious injury problem there if they do wind up cutting bait. Lawrie is not a bad player when healthy.

Also, trading Robertson and/or Jones in the offseason is a mistake.If Robertson has a hot start to the season he'll command a bounty in July. Think something just like the Ken Giles, Aroldis Chapman, Andrew Miller hauls..the risk of course being Robertson sucking more and being worthless but the opportunity is too great.

:lol: :lol: :lol: No.

_________________
Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:50 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:32 pm
Posts: 13865
Location: France
pizza_Place: Baranabyis
If David Robertson puts up a sub-2.00 ERA and converts all his saves (he has had stretches better than that in his career) he will be extremely valuable at the deadline. I mean, Robertson is only a month older than Andrew Miller so its not like age will derail his value.

He just needs to do it, which he probably wont.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:53 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm
Posts: 55768
America wrote:
If David Robertson puts up a sub-2.00 ERA and converts all his saves


:lol: :lol: :lol:

_________________
"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."


Frank Coztansa wrote:
I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:07 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:32 pm
Posts: 13865
Location: France
pizza_Place: Baranabyis
Its really not controversial to say Robertson is capable of being dominant. He's been dominant before.
Its really not controversial to say a top tier closer will get a massive haul at the deadline, because its happened for the last few seasons.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm
Posts: 55768
If you think the Sox are getting a haul like what the Indians gave up for Miller then there is nothing any of us can do for you

_________________
"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."


Frank Coztansa wrote:
I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:32 pm
Posts: 13865
Location: France
pizza_Place: Baranabyis
RFDC wrote:
If you think the Sox are getting a haul like what the Indians gave up for Miller then there is nothing any of us can do for you

Well he has to be put up some serious numbers to get to that level, but I fully expect him to be lights out now that the team isn't expecting to win. If he puts up stud reliever numbers there's no reason he doesn't get at least a Ken Giles level return, if not more.

Now he gets a fringe-y prospect at best, maybe a little more from a desperate team like the Giants. So I think its better to hold him and see where he's at in July.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:55 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:55 am
Posts: 6468
pizza_Place: Giordano's
America wrote:
RFDC wrote:
If you think the Sox are getting a haul like what the Indians gave up for Miller then there is nothing any of us can do for you

Well he has to be put up some serious numbers to get to that level, but I fully expect him to be lights out now that the team isn't expecting to win. If he puts up stud reliever numbers there's no reason he doesn't get at least a Ken Giles level return, if not more.

Now he gets a fringe-y prospect at best, maybe a little more from a desperate team like the Giants. So I think its better to hold him and see where he's at in July.



Was part of the reason for the haul is that Miller is signed for a couple more years?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:56 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:55 am
Posts: 6468
pizza_Place: Giordano's
And we don't know if part of Hahn's plan is shedding salary. IF he is trading Sale/Flavor Fraz, is he looking to trade Quintana?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:30 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:32 pm
Posts: 13865
Location: France
pizza_Place: Baranabyis
Cashman wrote:
And we don't know if part of Hahn's plan is shedding salary. IF he is trading Sale/Flavor Fraz, is he looking to trade Quintana?

He'll probably looking into trading Quintana and Eaton if the price is right.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:36 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:55 am
Posts: 6468
pizza_Place: Giordano's
America wrote:
Cashman wrote:
And we don't know if part of Hahn's plan is shedding salary. IF he is trading Sale/Flavor Fraz, is he looking to trade Quintana?

He'll probably looking into trading Quintana and Eaton if the price is right.




Hahn hired Drew Carey!?!


If Hahn is trading Sale, you have to trade these 2.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:05 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm
Posts: 55768
Quote:
One general manager says that Jose Quintana’s name didn’t come up in talks with the White Sox, leading the GM “to believe they’d like to hold on to him. [Chris] Sale was mentioned, [Carlos] Rodon was mentioned and all the others, but not Quintana.” Reports have the White Sox ready to listen on any player who isn’t under long-term control, though Quintana technically doesn’t fit this description. He is under contract through 2019 with a club option for 2020, and given how Quintana has pitched during his career, that early-career extension has become a bargain for the Sox. Rodon’s inclusion is interesting, as the highly-touted lefty can’t hit free agency until after the 2021 season, though just because Rodon’s name may have been mentioned in discussions obviously isn’t any sign that Chicago is exploring trades.

_________________
"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."


Frank Coztansa wrote:
I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:12 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:32 pm
Posts: 13865
Location: France
pizza_Place: Baranabyis
They probably won't be available until Sale is gone. IF they can't move Sale there's no point dumping Q and Eaton.

There are a lot of hack GM"s (that Coppy in Atlanta) that think they are so clever and will try and insert Q's name into talks to get what he wants for cheap. Like he did to dumbass Dave Stewart. Saying Q and Eaton are off limits neutralizes these tactics.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:22 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:43 pm
Posts: 1214
pizza_Place: Mariano's
Cheaper tickets
Cheaper food
Cheaper beer

#pappaJohns

_________________
Obama's Legacy is Trump.
And dead cops.

"One guy lays the pipe, the other guy smokes it"--Clint Eastwood


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:35 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:12 pm
Posts: 2860
pizza_Place: maciano's
Bleach. Clorox bleach.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 149 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group