As for me the longer guys are kept the lower the value goes ie. Q , Schwarber, and even Baez.Let us actually see what is gotten for these guys.As for Coop is this motherfucker pitching coach for life?

No worries, his trade value is not impacted.

The difference between Quintana and the other two guys you mention is that Quintana actually has a track record. Schwarber and Baez have never really done anything in the big leagues. Their supposed greatness is just something that Cub fans fantasized about.

I don't know how you could look at this year and say that Q's value hasn't dropped.

If you have lost movement on your fastball and are relying on your curveball now, does track record matter? You either have movement or you don't and the decline has started.

Yep. Can you imagine what Franks thoughts on this would be if everything was the same and Q was in a Cubs uniform right now...He would be laughing at EVERY bad outing saying the Cubs should have traded him in the offseason.

I guess just let them live in their world of denial.

Frank didnt say Quintana's value hasnt dropped at all.

I would bet a lot that Quintana isn't "in decline" and will go on a run where he is as good as he has ever been.

We all know your thoughts would be different if he was in a Cubs uniform.

Mediocre?

Yes.

The difference between Quintana and the other two guys you mention is that Quintana actually has a track record. Schwarber and Baez have never really done anything in the big leagues. Their supposed greatness is just something that Cub fans fantasized about.

The consensus among the scouts and executives was that to get both Quintana and Robertson, it would take two blue-chippers and two other significant prospects.

Here’s what that probably means: one player would be Clint Frazier or Blake Rutherford; another would be Chance Adams or Justus Sheffield; and then someone like Wade or Andujar, as well as a younger pitcher like Albert Abreu.

That’s not unreasonable to get two pitchers who could put the Yankees over the top this season and be here beyond 2017, especially with all of the young talent they have to absorb such a hit to their farm system.

Rumors about Quintana are heating up again:




http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... -1.3288375


Look at non-Yankee options:

https://www.southsidesox.com/2017/6/28/ ... ade-market

Why would the Yankees give up that much for two average-ish players that have already been in their org?

because there is not a single statistic beyond W/L that indicates Quintana is an average pitcher over the last half decade and they have a desperate need for bullpen help

Why would the Yankees give up that much for two average-ish players that have already been in their org?

Except for all of his stats this year. Look if the Sox get Clint Frazier or Blake Rutherford alone for him I'll be ecstatic, but the reality is likely closer to an exchange of mid tier arms and salary releif. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see the Sox adding anyone who slots into the org's current top 10 until next year's draft.

Except for all of his stats this year. Look if the Sox get Clint Frazier or Blake Rutherford alone for him I'll be ecstatic, but the reality is likely closer to an exchange of mid tier arms and salary releif. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see the Sox adding anyone who slots into the org's current top 10 until next year's draft.

because there is not a single statistic beyond W/L that indicates Quintana is an average pitcher over the last half decade and they have a desperate need for bullpen help

I agree though, they're not trading him. No way they admit defeat and realize that what could've gotten them Kyle Tucker 6 months ago now gets them two pitchers nobody has heard of.