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Are the White Sox the biggest sleeping giant in sports?
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Author:  denisdman [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:46 pm ]
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Thanks Steve. That will certainly move the discussion forward given your credibility on all things White Sox.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:46 pm ]
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denisdman wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I read MSG and was thinking Madison Square Garden. Oops.


Speaking of Madison Square Garden, I really like that venue. I've seen two Rangers' games there. I would love to see a boxing card there.

Madison Square Garden should be demolished (it shouldn't have been built where it is in the first place) but the money they spent renovating it makes that practically impossible -- though I understand the city could still have it done anyway if they really wanted to.
Author:  Regular Reader [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:48 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
MartyD47 wrote:
Rick gets it.

The Sox are a sleeping giant.

I see the new owner getting a retractable downtown park.


Near zero chance of occurring.



I wouldn't bet on that. We just built a stadium for a college basketball team nobody gives a fuck about.


I'm still shocked how Reinsdorf & Wirtz allowed that into existence. And wondering what they got in return.
Author:  denisdman [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:49 pm ]
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CH, you don't like the location or the venue? Since I always stay in Midtown, it's convenient for me.
Author:  Brick [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:51 pm ]
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It's nice but overrated given how awesome everyone acts like it is.

If we put both MSG and the United Center in Peoria I'd prefer the United Center.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:53 pm ]
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denisdman wrote:
CH, you don't like the location or the venue? Since I always stay in Midtown, it's convenient for me.

The original Penn Station, which was an amazing piece of architecture, was demolished to make way for MSG (this is like the fourth or fifth building called "Madison Square Garden") and replaced with a system of tunnels beneath the arena complex which cannot adequately serve all the LIRR/NJT/Amtrak traffic. Imagine the ambiance of Millennium Station with four times the traffic of Union Station. It's a terrible mess. I believe the famous line was "one used to enter the city like a king, now one scurries in like a rat."

The arena itself is fine enough, but it shouldn't have replaced a landmark building and made rail transit a living hell for a city that relies heavily on rail transit. And like Rick said, everyone treats it as the holy ground of American indoor sports but it's just a big building. Arenas can't be romanticized like ballparks.
Author:  Elmhurst Steve [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:59 pm ]
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pittmike wrote:
Soon there will be waves of talent coming from the farm. Additionally, there will be extra assets for making awesome trades.


Until they make it to the major leagues, they are unproven and besides Moncada, none are a sure thing. Moncada will be a star. But you need several to come through and it's no certainty that will happen. The Sox sucked at the stupid patchwork jobs they did in years past and with Abreau, Robertson, Frazier, Quintana and Cabrerra all still aboard, Hahn doesn't seem all that capable of a successful rebuild either. Still trying to contend to a certain degree, when all it might do, is to ensure a less desirable draft pick.
Author:  denisdman [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:09 pm ]
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I hear you guys. I guess there is an allure to thing in NY just because it is NY. I found it fun place to watch hockey, and I love the chant when the Rangers score. With NY everything is about location, and MSG is in a great (albeit tourist heavy) part of the city. The hustle and bustle around that area is part of the attraction, that you feel like you are in a lively place and not a dump like Peoria.
Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:01 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Lots of minor league talent.
Huge baseball market.
Very good stadium deal.
Championship pedigree.
Underwhelming success based on the "win every year" strategy that MLB has decided is not correct.
Demanding fan base.
Potential of a new downtown domed stadium after Guaranteed Rate is no longer viable.
Coming sale of the team to a deep pocketed owner.

It sucks now but the White Sox could be a force in the future.

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Author:  Brick [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:03 pm ]
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A day later and a lot of Cubs fans posted in this thread and not a single White Sox fan complained about it.


Hmmmm......
Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:40 pm ]
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No.
Author:  Brick [ Sat May 20, 2017 3:04 pm ]
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Looking that way....
Author:  Scooter [ Sat May 20, 2017 8:23 pm ]
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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Author:  FavreFan [ Sat May 20, 2017 8:30 pm ]
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Scooter's on board!
Author:  Scooter [ Sat May 20, 2017 8:47 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Scooter's on board!

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:34 am ]
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Looking like YES!
Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:14 am ]
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They really should just name the minor league all star game, the White Sox scrimmage.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:23 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
They really should just name the minor league all star game, the White Sox scrimmage.
Tidal waves of talent.
Author:  FavreFan [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:26 am ]
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Probably yes but if they fire Hahn and KW immediately there might now be enough to work with going forward.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:27 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Probably yes but if they fire Hahn and KW immediately there might now be enough to work with going forward.

Do you think we could get Jed?
Author:  Brick [ Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:49 pm ]
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Pretty obvious that the Worlds Greatest Network knows this to be true.
Author:  Caller Bob [ Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:56 pm ]
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Sux get Cub's sloppy seconds as the 2016 World Champions will soon be building their own network. FauxRebuild.
Author:  Brick [ Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:35 am ]
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Yes. No other team seems close.
Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:29 pm ]
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Still asleep :lol: I guess
Author:  Brick [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:30 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
Still asleep :lol: I guess
For now.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:40 pm ]
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Even Rip Van Winkle eventually woke up .
Author:  312player [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:49 am ]
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Comatose
Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:12 am ]
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312player wrote:
Comatose

Chicago White Schiavos.

The humane thing to do would be to pull the plug
Author:  Brick [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:24 pm ]
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You will see one day.
Author:  Brick [ Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:26 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
You will see one day.

One day is today.

Stacking low cost superstars for years.
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