Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
He settled down after his bad first and was Normal Q for 4 2/3. Not worried about it.
But woo-hoo, confirmation bias!
But woo-hoo, confirmation bias!
0-3 . I agree , normal Q getting outpitched by his opponent .
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:31 pm ] |
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: He settled down after his bad first and was Normal Q for 4 2/3. Not worried about it. But woo-hoo, confirmation bias! 0-3 . I agree , normal Q getting outpitched by his opponent .
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:31 pm ] |
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FavreFan wrote: :lol: He was fine after he got rocked for 5 runs in the first and essentially lose the game one inning in. Pitchers have bad innings. Sometimes, they even have bad games. Sometimes still, they have multiple bad games. Quintana has shown he hasn't lost it, as evidenced by his 4 2/3 innings after the debacle in the first. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:33 pm ] |
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Probably injured in that stupid exhibition |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:35 pm ] |
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badrogue17 wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: He settled down after his bad first and was Normal Q for 4 2/3. Not worried about it. But woo-hoo, confirmation bias! 0-3 . I agree , normal Q getting outpitched by his opponent .More than 40% of a change in W/L% (and by extension, winning and losing) can be explained by a change in run support. Quintana's bad games as exacerbated by his completely inept offense, currently 24th in the league in runs scored. |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Sox Games Thread |
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: badrogue17 wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: He settled down after his bad first and was Normal Q for 4 2/3. Not worried about it. But woo-hoo, confirmation bias! 0-3 . I agree , normal Q getting outpitched by his opponent .More than 40% of a change in W/L% (and by extension, winning and losing) can be explained by a change in run support. Quintana's bad games as exacerbated by his completely inept offense, currently 24th in the league in runs scored. Yeah he should've pitched last night. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:43 pm ] |
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You cannot give up 5 runs in the 1st and then blame an inept offense. |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:04 pm ] |
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RFDC wrote: You cannot give up 5 runs in the 1st and then blame an inept offense. I'm not, I'm saying that the inept offense inflates the perceived rate at which Quintana give up a ton of runs. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:34 pm ] |
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Losing pitcher Jose Quintana. He's a nice 3 on a SOLID team. |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:13 pm ] |
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Not that it manners to MANY, but Quintana would have had to throw a perfect game to keep the Sox in this one through 9. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:16 pm ] |
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Not that it manners to MANY, but Quintana would have had to throw a perfect game to keep the Sox in this one through 9. Maybe. Maybe the game turns out differently. Pretty deflating when your "ace" gives 5 runs to start the game. |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:23 pm ] |
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FavreFan wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Not that it manners to MANY, but Quintana would have had to throw a perfect game to keep the Sox in this one through 9. Maybe. Maybe the game turns out differently. Pretty deflating when your "ace" gives 5 runs to start the game. Right. The Sox got one-hit because of the 5 runs scored in the first inning. That makes sense. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:30 pm ] |
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: FavreFan wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Not that it manners to MANY, but Quintana would have had to throw a perfect game to keep the Sox in this one through 9. Maybe. Maybe the game turns out differently. Pretty deflating when your "ace" gives 5 runs to start the game. Right. The Sox got one-hit because of the 5 runs scored in the first inning. That makes sense. I didn't say that. It's wrong to assume the game would always unfold the same way in whatever hypothetical scenario you're imagining though. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:33 pm ] |
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Is hypothetical Jose Quintana better than hypothetical Jay Cutler? |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:11 pm ] |
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Not that it manners to MANY, but Quintana would have had to throw a perfect game to keep the Sox in this one through 9. No, he wouldn't have. Now the guy you keep trumpeting as "great" can't be expected to pitch as well as Ervin Santana.
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:30 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Not that it manners to MANY, but Quintana would have had to throw a perfect game to keep the Sox in this one through 9. No, he wouldn't have. Now the guy you keep trumpeting as "great" can't be expected to pitch as well as Ervin Santana.ERVIN SANTANA THREW A ONE-HIT COMPLETE GAME YOU NIMROD. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:39 pm ] |
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Santana has a .538 career win %. He threw an awesome game. Tip your cap and move on. |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:43 pm ] |
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Not that it manners to MANY, but Quintana would have had to throw a perfect game to keep the Sox in this one through 9. No, he wouldn't have. Now the guy you keep trumpeting as "great" can't be expected to pitch as well as Ervin Santana.ERVIN SANTANA THREW A ONE-HIT COMPLETE GAME YOU NIMROD. So it takes a perfect game to equal that? Who is the fucking nimrod?
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:44 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Not that it manners to MANY, but Quintana would have had to throw a perfect game to keep the Sox in this one through 9. No, he wouldn't have. Now the guy you keep trumpeting as "great" can't be expected to pitch as well as Ervin Santana.ERVIN SANTANA THREW A ONE-HIT COMPLETE GAME YOU NIMROD. So it takes a perfect game to equal that? Who is the fucking nimrod? So what would have Quintana have had to do in order to "out-pitch" Ervin Santana today? |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2017 Sox Games Thread |
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Not that it manners to MANY, but Quintana would have had to throw a perfect game to keep the Sox in this one through 9. No, he wouldn't have. Now the guy you keep trumpeting as "great" can't be expected to pitch as well as Ervin Santana.ERVIN SANTANA THREW A ONE-HIT COMPLETE GAME YOU NIMROD. So it takes a perfect game to equal that? Who is the fucking nimrod? So what would have Quintana have had to do in order to "out-pitch" Ervin Santana today? I don't know. I can't say where Santana's head is if he isn't staked to a five run lead in the first inning. But it's not crazy to ask your "GREAT" pitcher to shut down a team that might set a league record for strikeouts until your team scores off Ervin Santana. It certainly does not take a perfect game. |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:01 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Not that it manners to MANY, but Quintana would have had to throw a perfect game to keep the Sox in this one through 9. No, he wouldn't have. Now the guy you keep trumpeting as "great" can't be expected to pitch as well as Ervin Santana.ERVIN SANTANA THREW A ONE-HIT COMPLETE GAME YOU NIMROD. So it takes a perfect game to equal that? Who is the fucking nimrod? So what would have Quintana have had to do in order to "out-pitch" Ervin Santana today? I don't know. I can't say where Santana's head is if he isn't staked to a five run lead in the first inning. But it's not crazy to ask your "GREAT" pitcher to shut down a team that might set a league record for strikeouts until your team scores off Ervin Santana. It certainly does not take a perfect game. Here are opponent batting lines when Santana's offense is ahead or behind that of their opponents:  He's basically the same pitcher regardless of how is offense is performing. |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:51 pm ] |
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I'm not sure what those games have to do with the one that was played today. Except that Santana probably pitched better than Quintana when they were in the same game. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:08 pm ] |
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How can a team be so damn bad at trying to bunt. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:08 pm ] |
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STOP FUCKING BUNTING, DUMBDICK! |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:15 pm ] |
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Looks like Ricky "Raw Deal" Renteria has a lot in common with Robin. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:16 pm ] |
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Man Buxton has sure been disappointing in the majors. It was not too long ago that he was the #1 prospect in baseball |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:22 pm ] |
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Twice they had 1st and 2nd with nobody out and didn't even move a runner up, let alone score. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:19 pm ] |
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Avi! What power! |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:28 pm ] |
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RFDC wrote: Boobstein wrote: Boy the Ligue's sure come out after a Cubs loss. #TheyllBeFine It distracts them from the fact that their team is losing to the Twins again.
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:34 pm ] |
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Keyser Soze wrote: STOP FUCKING BUNTING, DUMBDICK! Ventura bunted all the time you fuckin hoser. |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:50 pm ] |
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When did Avi Garcia get good? |
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