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Kahnle is the most valuable trade chip the Sox have, that includes Quintana.

America wrote:

Kahnle is the most valuable trade chip the Sox have, that includes Quintana.

No.

My guess is that they move at least two guys before July 1.

who is the first to go?

It has to be Robertson. Some team is going to want to get the jump on the others. My dark horse would be Holland. He's having a nice season, has playoff experience, has an easy contract to absorb and there are lots of teams who are looking for a more back end answer to their rotations.

who is the first to go?

I cannot believe this has happened but Cooper has worked another miracle in making Pelphry a trading chip.

good dolphin wrote:

Supposedly the Nationals had a trade all but done for the Rockies' closer Greg Holland, but backed off at the last minute. Talk about a whoops. They've gotta be desperate at this point.

good to see dolphin embracing the plan. First excitement over the draft and now excitement for the trade deadline.

Gammons said he sees no way the Sox get 4 players for Quintana...of course that daffy old codger preceded the Quintana discussion by saying the Cubs still had a superior farm system, so who knows what year he is living in.

Pelfrey is a bum, Quintana should be moved first, then Robertson... I don't think they will move Avi or Abreu ..Nobody else has any value.

good dolphin wrote:

The Cubs do have a better farm.

Schwarber, Jimenez over Moncada, Robert.

Kopech will bust out with arm injuries. Giolito is hit or miss... The Sox system ain't as deep as you think.

312player wrote:

Schwarber, Jimenez over Moncada, Robert.

Kopech will bust out with arm injuries. Giolito is hit or miss... The Sox system ain't as deep as you think.

Every prospect is hit or miss. You have no idea about the future of injuries, and you only scratched the surface of the organization's prospects. You know it, and it's why you are so defensive about it.

good dolphin wrote:

The Cubs do have a better farm.

Schwarber, Jimenez over Moncada, Robert.

Kopech will bust out with arm injuries. Giolito is hit or miss... The Sox system ain't as deep as you think.

Author:	good dolphin [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:43 pm ]
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who is the first to go? It has to be Robertson. Some team is going to want to get the jump on the others. My dark horse would be Holland. He's having a nice season, has playoff experience, has an easy contract to absorb and there are lots of teams who are looking for a more back end answer to their rotations.

Author:	America [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:45 pm ]
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Kahnle is the most valuable trade chip the Sox have, that includes Quintana.

Author:	America [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:45 pm ]
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This is also when I remind everyone that the Sox still haven't fully signalled that they are rebuilding.

Author:	Joe Orr Road Rod [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:46 pm ]
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America wrote: Kahnle is the most valuable trade chip the Sox have, that includes Quintana. No.

Author:	good dolphin [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:48 pm ]
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I cannot believe this has happened but Cooper has worked another miracle in making Pelphry a trading chip.

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Author:	America [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:51 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: America wrote: Kahnle is the most valuable trade chip the Sox have, that includes Quintana. No. They aren't gonna trade Avi.

Author:	good dolphin [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:59 pm ]
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My guess is that they move at least two guys before July 1.

Author:	Keyser Soze [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:01 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote: My guess is that they move at least two guys before July 1. I'll take the under.

Author:	formerlyknownas [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:04 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote: who is the first to go? It has to be Robertson. Some team is going to want to get the jump on the others. My dark horse would be Holland. He's having a nice season, has playoff experience, has an easy contract to absorb and there are lots of teams who are looking for a more back end answer to their rotations. Supposedly the Nationals had a trade all but done for the Rockies' closer Greg Holland, but backed off at the last minute. Talk about a whoops. They've gotta be desperate at this point.

Author:	Douchebag [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:24 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote: who is the first to go? Choose two

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:29 pm ]
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Kahnle is going to cost somebody an arm and a leg, as the Sox have control of him until 2021. Robertson and Swarzak are the bullpen guys to move.

Author:	FavreFan [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:31 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote: I cannot believe this has happened but Cooper has worked another miracle in making Pelphry a trading chip. No chance. I don't believe Jorr is correct about Quintanas value but if he is Q should be the first to go. Obviously they need to capitalize on the Nationals catastrophic bullpen somehow or they should all be fired.

Author:	ChiefWampum [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:34 pm ]
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formerlyknownas wrote: good dolphin wrote: who is the first to go? It has to be Robertson. Some team is going to want to get the jump on the others. My dark horse would be Holland. He's having a nice season, has playoff experience, has an easy contract to absorb and there are lots of teams who are looking for a more back end answer to their rotations. Supposedly the Nationals had a trade all but done for the Rockies' closer Greg Holland, but backed off at the last minute. Talk about a whoops. They've gotta be desperate at this point. Why would the first place Rockies trade their closer?

Author:	Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:52 pm ]
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I can't believe Robertson is still here. Frazier has to wait for Moustakas to get traded first. You'd typically expect trades at the positions where your best prospects are playing. But their catchers and their 2Bs suck. I can see them trading Abreu to the Yankees, as the Yankees are legit but they can't wait for Greg Bird and Chris Carter is three true outcomes and will be horrible in a playoff series. Take Bird back and maybe a guy like Tprreyes and some pitching prospects. But again, would the Yankees want Abreu, or Hosmer who is a free agent rental? They might get something in A ball for a guy like Swarzak or Pelfrey, but that's just shuffling deck chairs.

Author:	312player [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:37 am ]
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Kahnle is making chump change for 5 years, he's not going anywhere, Rodon's value has never been lower. No chance he's traded away now.

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Author:	RFDC [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:23 pm ]
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good to see dolphin embracing the plan. First excitement over the draft and now excitement for the trade deadline.

Author:	MartyD47 [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:27 pm ]
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Here are my shorthand, off the top of my head deals, sure to be laughed out of the room. Robertson, Swarzak, and Kahnle to Nationals for Robles. Avi and Abreu to Dodgers for Urias and Verdugo Q, Frazier, and Jones to Red Sox for Devers

Author:	good dolphin [ Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:45 am ]
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RFDC wrote: good to see dolphin embracing the plan. First excitement over the draft and now excitement for the trade deadline. My interest in the draft is more for comedic purposes. You know who had A Plan I would like to imitate, the Satan Elf Cashman.

Author:	good dolphin [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:09 am ]
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Gammons said he sees no way the Sox get 4 players for Quintana...of course that daffy old codger preceded the Quintana discussion by saying the Cubs still had a superior farm system, so who knows what year he is living in.

Author:	Cashman [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:16 am ]
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good dolphin wrote: Gammons said he sees no way the Sox get 4 players for Quintana...of course that daffy old codger preceded the Quintana discussion by saying the Cubs still had a superior farm system, so who knows what year he is living in. I don't think Hahn has to trade him.

Author:	312player [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:32 am ]
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Pelfrey is a bum, Quintana should be moved first, then Robertson... I don't think they will move Avi or Abreu ..Nobody else has any value.

Author:	WaitingforRuffcorn [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:35 am ]
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312player wrote: Pelfrey is a bum, Quintana should be moved first, then Robertson... I don't think they will move Avi or Abreu ..Nobody else has any value. No one else on the entire team has value? Kahnle? Rodon? No one?

Author:	312player [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:44 am ]
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Schwarber, Jimenez over Moncada, Robert. Kopech will bust out with arm injuries. Giolito is hit or miss... The Sox system ain't as deep as you think.

Author:	TurdFerguson [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:52 am ]
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Not a hill I'm dying on. Sox have a better farm system right now. Cubs have graduated so many players it would hard for them not to.

Author:	312player [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:54 am ]
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: 312player wrote: Schwarber, Jimenez over Moncada, Robert. Kopech will bust out with arm injuries. Giolito is hit or miss... The Sox system ain't as deep as you think. Every prospect is hit or miss. You have no idea about the future of injuries, and you only scratched the surface of the organization's prospects. You know it, and it's why you are so defensive about it. Defensive? Not at all, Epstein has an outstanding track record, Kenny doesn't.

Author:	good dolphin [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:15 am ]
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312player wrote: good dolphin wrote: Gammons said he sees no way the Sox get 4 players for Quintana...of course that daffy old codger preceded the Quintana discussion by saying the Cubs still had a superior farm system, so who knows what year he is living in. The Cubs do have a better farm. Than who? Superior implies the top couple in baseball. I'm not even sure they are a top 10 any more.

Author:	good dolphin [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:18 am ]
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312player wrote: Schwarber, Jimenez over Moncada, Robert. Kopech will bust out with arm injuries. Giolito is hit or miss... The Sox system ain't as deep as you think. Love it. I was joking yesterday when I said someone would bump up the quality of the Cub farm system because Schwarber returned to it.