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A strategic rebuild, only acquiring assets that were young and controllable.

The problem Theo found when he took over was that every other team in baseball was wise to the idea of buying out arb years and locking up young talent. The FA classes were horrific. Otherwise the team would have been much better/faster.

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A strategic rebuild, only acquiring assets that were young and controllable.

That's what Hahn is doing. Sale and Quintana are 28. They would be 30 by the time the Sox would be a legitimate World Series contender if the rebuild went perfectly without trading them and by then they wouldn't be controlled for long.

What you are describing is not a strategic rebuild. It would have very little to no chance to work.

But, get back to the major point, which is that you are claiming that Theo wanted to win those 3 years. He was pretty bad at winning.

In 2015, Theo signed a 30 year old Jon Lester, and subsequently won the World Series with him the following year. I find it hard to believe that in 2013, Theo would see a 28 year old Chris Sale in his control and throw in the white flag on ever winning a WS with him.

After trading away Jeff S. and not signing him to a long term deal.

We'll never know how Theo would have built up the White Sox. That doesn't change the fact that he didn't try and win for 3 years, or was really, really bad at winning.

Little different than jettisoning a guy with 3 more full seasons of control, entering his prime.

He traded Shark away with only 1.5 years control...after many, many, many attempts to secure an extension. Little different than jettisoning a guy with 3 more full seasons of control, entering his prime.

Chris Sale was not "jettisoned."

Caller Bob has been embarrassed in MANY threads but this might be his worst one yet.

I've got Frank back... engaged talking about the White Sox(not the Cubs) and this is the support I get? For returning your prodigal son home? #Sad

Chris Sale was not "jettisoned." Miguel Montero was Jettisoned. Eaton, Sale, Quintana, Melky...ALL of those guys have been used to acquire young and controlable assets. Which you praised Theo for doing.

You have changed your argument into Theo acquired assets and signed free ajents, and now have simply made something up.

You lost this one. A long time ago. Best to just move along now.

You mention the Sox and Sox fans more often than Frank mentions the Cubs.

(Un)Fortunately he won't.

I've run the numbers and it isn't true
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And I've which you would show appreciation for helping out a fellow subdivision member. No respect.

That was 2012, Theo's first year. And the loss total was a result of the already Gutted/Aging roster Hendry left him. He didn't gut anything, the cupboard was already bare. He already started adding big league talent that year in Rizzo and he made a big time run at Darvish too.

Sucks when a guy wont give up a losing argument right?

I wouldn't say easy. Holland sucks, and Sheilds is owed a good amount of money. I would not be shocked to see either guy move, but I would not be shocked if one or bother are still chucking for the Sox in September.

Agreed. Theyll either be traded or they wont.

The Cubs let Chris Volstad pitch major league innings. Even Rick Hahn isn't desperate enough to lose so much to do that, and Volstad has been at Charlotte this year.

I thought it was amusing when some Sox fans were worried that the "rebuild" was just code for "trading the assholes." Major credit to Rick Hahn for playing this one out really well. And guys like Shields and Holland are easy waiver moves, don't be surprised if you see Holland moved on August 31 for another lottery ticket.