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Author:  FavreFan [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:58 am ]
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I'm not sorry for going good dolphin on everyone today for this.

So anyone who actually knows something, what's the scoop on the rest of this deal? Consolidate my googling for me since I have to do some work at some point today.

Author:  Seacrest [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:03 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
I'm not sorry for going good dolphin on everyone today for this.

So anyone who actually knows something, what's the scoop on the rest of this deal? Consolidate my googling for me since I have to do some work at some point today.



Cease is the Cubs A ball equivalent to Quintana.

13 starts with a 1-2 record and a 2.59 ERA

Author:  '77Cubs [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:05 am ]
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Seacrest wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
I'm not sorry for going good dolphin on everyone today for this.

So anyone who actually knows something, what's the scoop on the rest of this deal? Consolidate my googling for me since I have to do some work at some point today.



Cease is the Cubs A ball equivalent to Quintana.

13 starts with a 1-2 record and a 2.59 ERA


Great arm, but doubt he stays a starter.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:05 am ]
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Cease can hit 100 but I don't think he will stick as a starter, even if he makes the majors. His arm is fragile.

Author:  FavreFan [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:10 am ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
Cease can hit 100 but I don't think he will stick as a starter, even if he makes the majors. His arm is fragile.

Bullpen guy? Or full out bust?

Author:  '77Cubs [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:11 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Cease can hit 100 but I don't think he will stick as a starter, even if he makes the majors. His arm is fragile.

Bullpen guy? Or full out bust?


Flip of the coin guy.

Author:  America [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:36 am ]
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Cease is a pen arm, but he could be a really, really good one. Him and Burdi are a very solid foundation on which to build a lights out bullpen.

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:58 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
I'm not sorry for going good dolphin on everyone today for this..


Never apologize for being better than others.

Work to bring others up to your level rather than letting them drag you down to theirs

Author:  America [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:03 pm ]
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Bryant Flete is kind of interesting, he's kinda old but his numbers look good. You wonder if he's figured it out a bit. Matt Rose looks bad bad bad.

It's really a two player return, but those are two really good ones.

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:18 pm ]
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America wrote:
Bryant Flete is kind of interesting, he's kinda old but his numbers look good. You wonder if he's figured it out a bit. Matt Rose looks bad bad bad.

It's really a two player return, but those are two really good ones.


I kind of thought the Cubs would be giving Candalerio away to whomever they made the SP trade. I also would have liked the Sox to have Caratani in the trade as he is kind of a minor guy who is developmentally blocked/

Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:25 pm ]
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America wrote:
Cease is a pen arm,


I don't think that's going to be the plan to start. He throws 100 and can maintain it as a starter. The issue with him is injury risk.

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:30 pm ]
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Compared to Doc Gooden.

Nice! We got Doc Gooden!

Author:  Cashman [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:31 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
America wrote:
Cease is a pen arm,


I don't think that's going to be the plan to start. He throws 100 and can maintain it as a starter. The issue with him is injury risk.


Don't the Sox have a comparable they got from the Red Sawx?

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:37 pm ]
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There are a lot of big name pitchers in the Sox minor leagues right now. This is great for a team that is known for being able to develop pitchers.

Author:  '77Cubs [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:40 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
America wrote:
Cease is a pen arm,


I don't think that's going to be the plan to start. He throws 100 and can maintain it as a starter. The issue with him is injury risk.


It's amazing how many guys throw 100 now. Is it mechanics? Better athletes? Are the guns juiced- lol?? WTF!!

Author:  pittmike [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:43 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
America wrote:
Cease is a pen arm,


I don't think that's going to be the plan to start. He throws 100 and can maintain it as a starter. The issue with him is injury risk.


I thought he already had Tommy John?

Author:  America [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:43 pm ]
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Even the pitcher they've always had are looking good. Spencer Adams and Jordan Stephens are both guys you should be paying attention to.

The Sox will of course give Cease every chance to start but odds are he'll wind up in the pen.

There are at least 10 pitchers in the system that I can envision having good major league careers, and of those about half have seriously high ceilings. Giolito is looking better than he ever really has nowadays. In my eyes he's on the verge of passing Robert and Moncada.

Author:  Keyser Soze [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:48 pm ]
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The best predictor of a future injury is a previous injury.

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