??? Gant played for the Cardinals too.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I hate this team

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No, he is Brave.

Jesse apparently calling out a bunch of players?

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I didn't remember his time there.

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Let's face it. Hahn's rebuild deals were our last great hope after the previous ten years of haplessness.

We are now at Less Than Zero. There's no 'retooling'. It isn't possible. All this dirty laundry is a blessing in disguise. JR is now backed into a corner. He has to exterminate or he'll have a fan base of Nas and little kids who want to run bases on sundays.

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Bernstein floated the possibility of a real owner eventually buying the team and moving them to Nashville.

I’m not even sure that would bother me at this point.

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You guys could buy those Lets Get Nashty t-shirts

My baseball fandom has never been at a lower point. They move and I'll consider it hockey. Completely off my radar.

https://youtu.be/yrG8HKaGHBk?t=14

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Wattabout Kodak Black?

Get your shit together. This defeatist attitude isn't a good look. Having a strong chin is a prerequisite for Chicago fandom.

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But clearly not a prerequisite for playing short stop in Chicago.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

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Moncada isn’t a hard worker??? This is breaking news?

I've also been thinking quite a bit about what Martin would do with this team. It really doesn't have a Jacksonlike personality that would stand up to him and I suspect he would just be able to impose his will.

Buck Showalter is already employed, at least for now, and I don't know if there's another big personality manager out there these days.

I dont think Bochy is a fuck around on manager

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

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They have the right guy working on TV with Chuck Garfein. I'm not a big fan of that guy, but there's enough talent on this team that he'd have them competing in a year or two. Of that I have no doubt.

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So you think put Ozzie in the dugout and with all the same players they would be a contender?

Idk.

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Not every single player. But there's definitely enough of a core there to contend. Especially in that shit division. Despite Simple Frank's claims to the contrary, this team isn't too much different than the one that won 93 games in 2021. Getting rid of Grandal will be a huge boost.

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wasnt this a problem like 10/15 yrs ago too w the wsox lockeroom? I remember reading somewhere guys use to bring their girlfriends to the clubhouse to have sex.

I don't think the Sox can run this back with Hahn and Grifol. I love Ozzie, but I'm not sure he is the answer. This team needs pitching and a lot of other shit.

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Yeah I definitely think Ozzie could help with the culture issues.

But until they deal with the pitching issues they are going to struggle.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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This team is vastly different to the 2021 club. Its not even up for a debate, its fact.

Let's break it down for the old, decrepit guy.
Comparing 2021 to opening day 2023

Different guy at 1st, worse
Different guy at 2nd, worse
Same SS, worse
Same 3rd, but he's only had 190 at bats. Jake Burger has played more 3rd. Equal at best
LF is probably close to the same
CF is better this year
RF probably equal, still bad

Only 3/5 (brogue's favorite fraction!) of the starting rotation is the same.

Other than 5.0 innings from Hendriks, and 20.0 innings with Lopez, the atrocious Aaron Bummer is the only reliver who was there in 2021.

Outside of Zavala and his buck sixty average, the bench is also completely different.

Katz and Boston are the only coaches still there.


So yeah other than 75% of the regular positon player, 40% of the rotaion, 90+% of the bullpen and bench being different, I guess it is the same team

Maybe you're looking at harvested box scores because the rest of us here in reality see an entirely different team, Jorr

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Sorry, RFDC, I had to laugh.... They have pitching issues, hitting issues, defense issues, baseball IQ issues, development issues, scouting issues, leadership issues, clubhouse issues, fan relations issues, and ownership issues.

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Wattabout Kodak Black?

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No doubt there are more issues than just pitching. But I meant more from the stand point of you can fix everything else and yet if they dont address pitching it is not going to help much.

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It can't be fixed. It's over for this regime. If you hire Ozzie as a bandaid, all that will be accomplished will be giving Ozzie a heart attack and you've wasted a year.

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The time to bring in Ozzie was last June. He would have guided the Sox to 5-6 more wins and a playoff apperance. They likely wouldn't have advanced very far but at least they would have made it.

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