but Bob can't even make a 2 foot putt

There is no way they finish the year with only 40 wins. There are just too many games and it is almost impossible to not win some.

60 is the lowest anyone should be thinking.

There is no way they finish the year with only 40 wins. There are just too many games and it is almost impossible to not win some.

60 is the lowest anyone should be thinking.

I completely get that this is a really bad team. But it is just about impossible to only win 40 games. The Oakland team last year was brutal as well and they got to 50.

Even the worst of teams have some stretches where they play decent and get a few wins.

You would think so, but since the AS break last season, the White Sox are 25-60. That extrapolates to 47.6 wins over a 162 game season. They haven't won a series since August 4-6 last season. They haven't won a series in April since 2022.

The 2003 Tigers were the worst team in recent memory at 49-113. This year's White Sox is going to come close to that.

They haven't won a series since August 4-6 last season.

You would think so, but since the AS break last season, the White Sox are 25-60. That extrapolates to 47.6 wins over a 162 game season. They haven't won a series since August 4-6 last season. They haven't won a series in April since 2022.

The 2003 Tigers were the worst team in recent memory at 49-113. This year's White Sox is going to come close to that.

You do make a strong case that they this team may be even worse than we are projecting. They have been historically bad for awhile now.

Unless they start bringing up some of their better young talent, which seems like a bad idea this year if they aren't ready, guys like Siroka and Flexen are probably not major league starters and Crochet is not a #1, and will eventually be limited by innings (and probably regression). Most days, there are 5 to 6 easy outs in that lineup - it's really hard too Maldonado, Lopez, Shewmake, DeJong and Pillar ever be anything but bad.

Vaughn, Benintendi, Jiminez and Sheets probably need to carry this offense and they have to hope Fletcher becomes a productive hitter. Is Vaughn anything more than average though? Yes, he's better than he's been, but there just isn't much upside here.

Almost any player above replacement level will be traded the last week of July if they are not on the IL. Maybe not Benintendi because of his contract.

They are very likely to finish out the season 13-39 in their last 52.

You do make a strong case that they this team may be even worse than we are projecting. They have been historically bad for awhile now.

Unless they start bringing up some of their better young talent, which seems like a bad idea this year if they aren't ready, guys like Siroka and Flexen are probably not major league starters and Crochet is not a #1, and will eventually be limited by innings (and probably regression). Most days, there are 5 to 6 easy outs in that lineup - it's really hard too Maldonado, Lopez, Shewmake, DeJong and Pillar ever be anything but bad.

Vaughn, Benintendi, Jiminez and Sheets probably need to carry this offense and they have to hope Fletcher becomes a productive hitter. Is Vaughn anything more than average though? Yes, he's better than he's been, but there just isn't much upside here.

Another good point, but I don't know who we are even talking about. Maybe there's a reliever or two that can be moved, Jimenez if he stays healthy, but I think the demand for White Sox players will be somewhat limited.

Honestly, have you watched more than couple innings of Sox baseball this year? We've certainly had some poor teams on the Southside over the last decade, but this is a whole new level of bad. The offense struggles to score 2 runs a game. They have 8 HR and 31 RBI has a team.
Sox just gave up 27 runs and 4 HRs the past 3 games to the Reds.

Sox won 61 games last season. The 2024 edition is much worse than last year's club.

I have good news for White Sox fans....that 2003 Tigers team parlayed their historically bad season into a transformative player, Justin Verlander in the 2004 draft. What transformative player will the White Sox redeem in the 2025 draft? Stay tuned!

Apparently 10th is the highest they can draft next year.

60 wins? Where will they come from? Defense, offense, or pitching?

This is the first I have heard of this.


Twins plane crash, so the Sox get like 10 wins via forfeit.

It was on the Score today- it is the new Collective Bargaining rules.

https://www.mlb.com/news/draft-rule-cha ... th-new-cba

“ Teams that receive revenue-sharing payouts can't receive a lottery pick for more than two years in a row and those that don't can't get a top-six choice in consecutive Drafts. Furthermore, a club that's ineligible for the lottery can't select higher than 10th overall.”

Here's the funny bad part. Chris Getz/Pedro Grifol's defense is WORSE. I was under the impression that,"yeah, we'll suck but we'll be able to catch the ball and we're going to stop walking 8 guys a game."

5th most in BBs
27th in defense.


They are terrible at everything. 60 wins? Where will they come from? Defense, offense, or pitching?

Hmm. Are you sure? I thought I remember reading a blurb from a blurb in this section about the Sox not getting a top ten pick about a hundred or so times, but I cannot be certain.

It was on the Score today- it is the new Collective Bargaining rules.

https://www.mlb.com/news/draft-rule-cha ... th-new-cba

“ Teams that receive revenue-sharing payouts can't receive a lottery pick for more than two years in a row and those that don't can't get a top-six choice in consecutive Drafts. Furthermore, a club that's ineligible for the lottery can't select higher than 10th overall.”

Dennis, perhaps you were lounging on the beach in Belize during this scintillating back and forth...
https://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=131746&p=4024925&hilit=Cashman#p4024925

LOL, hard to keep up around here even though I am pretty active.

Miss a little, miss a lot