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| Author: | beardown [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:40 am ] |
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The sox have the ability to make this trade. Kenny has done a great job getting players and having the teams eat some of the contracts (thome, vazquez) If the Sox get Tajada they will win 110 games. Win the World Series again. They will average 39,000 a game. The attendence will hurt Cub fans the most since they value winning the attendence battle more then anything. LOL. |
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| Author: | President Haywood [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:26 pm ] |
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This is strictly a “wait and see” for me. I’m not going to let Levine jerk me around again with tales of superstar players and “nearly done deals”. I’m happy with the job Kenny is doing, but beyond that, I’ll believe it when I see it. |
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| Author: | doug - evergreen park [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:33 pm ] |
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I didn't hear the update... So, they'd have to trade Uribe, then, obviously? |
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| Author: | Stinkfinger The Crow [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:39 pm ] |
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Yeah it'd have to be Uribe + (Garland/McCarthy/Contreras). I trust Kenny too, and I know I'm breaking into Buffonics here, but the fact remains that McCarthy is ready, and you now have 6 starting pitchers. Someone's gotta go. Question is for who/what? Tejada would be nice, but let's see what else Kenny has in mind. |
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| Author: | doug - evergreen park [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:57 pm ] |
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I think they'd move Garland before McCarthy. Especially since the Sox just made the Vasquez trade and Garland only having one year left before he's likely to make 10 million a seaon. So Garland and Uribe for Tejada...sounds good to me. They can still have six starters then. Carry the 12 pitchers and have a killer lineup. |
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| Author: | Guest [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:00 pm ] |
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Baltimore would probrally rather have McCarthy since Garland is a free agent next yr and McCarthy is making nothing. Not to mention in wont be untill 5 yrs until McCarthy is a free agent. |
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| Author: | doug - evergreen park [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:06 pm ] |
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But isn't there something about matching salaries? or is that only for the NBA? |
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| Author: | Stinkfinger The Crow [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:06 pm ] |
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Anonymous wrote: Baltimore would probrally rather have McCarthy since Garland is a free agent next yr and McCarthy is making nothing. Not to mention in wont be untill 5 yrs until McCarthy is a free agent. Good points Guest |
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| Author: | President Haywood [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:17 pm ] |
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Quote: But isn't there something about matching salaries? or is that only for the NBA? That's only the NBA (I believe it's within 15%). If they did that in MLB, the Yankees would never be able to pull off a deal! |
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| Author: | doug - evergreen park [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:20 pm ] |
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President Haywood wrote: Quote: But isn't there something about matching salaries? or is that only for the NBA? That's only the NBA (I believe it's within 15%). If they did that in MLB, the Yankees would never be able to pull off a deal! that's true... |
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| Author: | A7X [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:57 pm ] |
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I'd make that deal in a heartbeat. I don't know if Baltimore would though. According to the Baltimore writer that was on with Mully & Hanley recently, Angelos was asking a king's ransom for Tejada. He even said he wouldn't trade him straight up for Manny. Who knows? We'll just wait and see. |
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| Author: | My Coach Vinny [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:24 pm ] |
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Stinkfinger The Crow wrote: Anonymous wrote: Baltimore would probrally rather have McCarthy since Garland is a free agent next yr and McCarthy is making nothing. Not to mention in wont be untill 5 yrs until McCarthy is a free agent. Good points Guest From some stuff I've read earlier, for Tejada, Baltimore would like to get an "attraction" that will bring people to the park. From that standpoint, Contreras is probably the more celebrated one with his Yankee background and numerous specials on the BooyahTV. I would much rather prefer parting with Contreras than Garland. The only reason being the age. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:24 pm ] |
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But Baltimore might be looking at it this way. There is no way they can compete with New York and Boston this year. So they might as well get rid of tajada and get multiple players to try to go after them the following year. I mean they bombed with steroid users Sosa and Palmero last year. They are both gone. Tajada will be bitching when they are 20 games out at the all star game. They won't be able to get as much then because GM's can take advantage when they know a player is bitching. I am very confident that Kenny will pull this off. Kenny is pumping up the offense because of the remarkable offensive run the Indians made last year. Think about it guys, that team won 93 games last year and they had a crappy first half. Kenny realizes that. Despite are great pitching Kenny realizes that a Thome and a Tejada will be neccesary to win the division this year. |
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| Author: | THIS OLD GAY CUB FAN [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:39 pm ] |
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You're all wrong. A Cub fan called up to Murph's show yesterday and said he heard that the Cubs were getting Tejada for Cedano and a prospect. Take that Sox fans! |
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| Author: | My Coach Vinny [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:48 pm ] |
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THIS OLD GAY CUB FAN wrote: A Cub fan called up to Murph's show yesterday and said he heard that the Cubs were getting Tejada for Cedano and a prospect. This would have sounded much more authoritative, TOGCF (substitute words in italics) A Bear fan called up to Kathy and Judy show yesterday and said he heard that the Bears were getting Big Frank for starting TE and punt return jobs |
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| Author: | A7X [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:50 pm ] |
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Well if a "cub fan" said it, then it must be true.
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| Author: | Guest [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:44 pm ] |
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taa wrote: THIS OLD GAY CUB FAN wrote: A Cub fan called up to Murph's show yesterday and said he heard that the Cubs were getting Tejada for Cedano and a prospect. This would have sounded much more authoritative, TOGCF (substitute words in italics) A Bear fan called up to Kathy and Judy show yesterday and said he heard that the Bears were getting Big Frank for starting TE and punt return jobs Well, whatever, it's absolutely true. |
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| Author: | MartyD [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:50 pm ] |
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I'm guessing KW is going to make a run at Tejada. Chris Young is too good of a prospect to give up just to gain an extra year or two of stability in Vazquez over Contreras/Garland. Podsednik Iguchi Tejada Thome Konerko Would do OK i think. 
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| Author: | My Coach Vinny [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:07 pm ] |
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If my name was Ozzie, I would probably switch 3 and 4. |
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| Author: | President Haywood [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:15 pm ] |
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I would switch 4 & 5 and then move Thome to linebacker... |
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| Author: | My Coach Vinny [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:22 pm ] |
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... in the new game of Tackle Baseball where bats can be used to hit pitches as well as the opponent's baserunners. |
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| Author: | EG Greg [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:54 pm ] |
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Looks like im a little slow on the Tejada trade. I havent heard the exact report, but i really dont put much stock into anything that Bruce Levine says. Having said that though, Baltimore will not make this trade unless it is Garland or McCarthy, Uribe and a reasonably high level prospect. If I'm Kenny I send Garland, Uribe and the prospect, not Sweeney or Anderson, and pray that Angelos accepts before he realizes how dumb of a decision he just made. On the other hand when i first heard the Vazquez trade this morning I immediatly thought that they would turn him around in some kind of package deal to another team. I no longer think that though, due to the fact that would normally be a 3 team deal if he was getting shipped off again. I'm not a huge fan of Vazquez, but if he can somehow return to his Montreal form, look the F out. These guys could be unstoppable, however before we award the 2006 WS, lets all keep in mind the Yankees and Red Sox saw what compiling a team of big names gets you. There are more moves to come without a doubt... |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:57 am ] |
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The Yankees saw it win them several championships in the 90's. The amazing thing is the Sox are doing this without going crazy with the budget. Thome is being payed 7.5 mil, Contrearas 6 mil, Vazquez is under 10 mil, etc. Look at this trade. The Sox would probably have paid someone before the end of the year to take El Duque off their hands. Vizcaino is no better than the 5th man in the bullpen and possibly worse. This outfield prospect may be a stud and then again... all in exchange for a pitcher with ace potential. I think it is a good move. |
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| Author: | President Haywood [ Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:36 pm ] |
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Quote: I havent heard the exact report, but i really dont put much stock into anything that Bruce Levine says. Here's the report, courtesy of the Carmen & Whiny soundboard: http://rope.espnradio1000.com/sc/bruce_soxplayoffs1.wma |
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| Author: | Guest [ Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tajada a possibility for the sox |
beardown wrote: They will average 39,000 a game. They'll already do that, try and get season ticket info and see where your seats will be, and tickets haven't gone on sale yet |
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| Author: | Jason in Highland [ Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:10 pm ] |
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good dolphin wrote: The Yankees saw it win them several championships in the 90's. The amazing thing is the Sox are doing this without going crazy with the budget. Thome is being payed 7.5 mil, Contrearas 6 mil, Vazquez is under 10 mil, etc. Look at this trade. The Sox would probably have paid someone before the end of the year to take El Duque off their hands. Vizcaino is no better than the 5th man in the bullpen and possibly worse. This outfield prospect may be a stud and then again... all in exchange for a pitcher with ace potential. I think it is a good move. isn't this the EXACT reason the Sox probably wouldn't sign Tejada?? Isn't he making a FAIR amount of money? And wouldn't the Sox have to pick up ALOT of that money should they acquire his services?? |
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| Author: | President Haywood [ Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:16 pm ] |
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Tejada makes less than the deal Furcal just got. If Baltimore picks up even a fraction of the money, I see it as a good deal... |
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| Author: | Guest [ Sat Dec 17, 2005 8:22 pm ] |
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and of course the trade can't go through because of the matching salaries Brilliant Sox fans. |
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| Author: | whodat [ Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:01 am ] |
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yep those sox fans know baseball like nobody else ...i hope they do get tAjada |
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| Author: | Guest [ Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:37 am ] |
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THE CHICAGO WHITE SOX WILL NOT AVERAGE 39,000 PER GAME- THEY WILL NOT FULL UP THE UPPER DECK EVERY GAME BECAUSE THYE HAVE A FAN BASE THAT CAN NOT AFFORD TO GO TO EVERY GAME |
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