Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Does a lineup of
Ball
Lavine
DeRozan
Williams
Vucevic
get your peckers hard?
Ball
Lavine
DeRozan
Williams
Vucevic
get your peckers hard?
How badly would you like to know?
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| Author: | BigW72 [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:35 am ] |
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good dolphin wrote: It seems like the NBA is a never ending cycle of bad contracts that everyone knows will be bad from the moment they are signed That's a pretty accurate statement. Goes back to my fundamental problem with the NBA....if you don't draft an absolute star, you have no chance. Bulls may be incrementally better. At best (and this is optimistic) they're a 6th seed playoff team. That gets them absolutely nowhere. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Sounds like they are trying to get Derozan now... |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
I hate this lonzo ball move, the guy is garbage. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:17 am ] |
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312player wrote: I hate this lonzo ball move, the guy is garbage. You're too hung up on his rookie year. He's a good player now. It's ok to admit you were wrong. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Does a lineup of Ball Lavine DeRozan Williams Vucevic get your peckers hard? |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
I don't think Lonzo Ball is a terrible player, but he couldn't win with two All-Stars in New Orleans. It just makes you a middling team with no chance to compete for a title. They are capped out, and they have no draft picks either. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Of course. Who wouldn't be excited about a 42-40 team. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:22 am ] |
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FavreFan wrote: Of course. Who wouldn't be excited about a 42-40 team. That lineup should win 50 games. If not, Donovan ain't the guy. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: I don't think Lonzo Ball is a terrible player, but he couldn't win with two All-Stars in New Orleans. It just makes you a middling team with no chance to compete for a title. They are capped out, and they have no draft picks either. That's basically my problem with this and what I was getting at with Zippy. I like Lonzo but he's never won anywhere. Either has Lavine. Either has Vuc. We're putting together a core of guys that has been in the league for several years each and none have ever made the playoffs(I think Vuc did one year as a 8 seed but point remains). I don't really think there's any reasonable case to be made to be optimistic about the Bulls right now. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
FavreFan wrote: WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: I don't think Lonzo Ball is a terrible player, but he couldn't win with two All-Stars in New Orleans. It just makes you a middling team with no chance to compete for a title. They are capped out, and they have no draft picks either. That's basically my problem with this and what I was getting at with Zippy. I like Lonzo but he's never won anywhere. Either has Lavine. Either has Vuc. We're putting together a core of guys that has been in the league for several years each and none have ever made the playoffs(I think Vuc did one year as a 8 seed but point remains). I don't really think there's any reasonable case to be made to be optimistic about the Bulls right now. It will be even worse when they miss the playoffs again next year and sign Lavine to a max extension. |
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| Author: | Ron Wolfley [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Caller Bob wrote: Sounds like they are trying to get Derozan now... He can still ball. From the few Spurs games I watched last season, it seemed like every time they needed a bucket, DeRozan was taking and creating his own shot. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:12 am ] |
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I kinda agree with what FF is saying but not sure what else they should do. |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
FavreFan wrote: WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: I don't think Lonzo Ball is a terrible player, but he couldn't win with two All-Stars in New Orleans. It just makes you a middling team with no chance to compete for a title. They are capped out, and they have no draft picks either. That's basically my problem with this and what I was getting at with Zippy. I like Lonzo but he's never won anywhere. Either has Lavine. Either has Vuc. We're putting together a core of guys that has been in the league for several years each and none have ever made the playoffs(I think Vuc did one year as a 8 seed but point remains). I don't really think there's any reasonable case to be made to be optimistic about the Bulls right now. I watched a few games after the Vuc trade, and it was still like something out of the post 98 rebuild. He's a good offensive player but awful defensively. It did not look like a team that was a decent point guard away. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:37 am ] |
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PG was def a major issue last yr and derozan is a nice player but unless I am missing something or zach suddenly becomes a mega star then they are no better than at best a 6 seed with a terrible draft pick every year. I guess you just pray they grab lightening in a bottle for one yr |
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| Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:49 am ] |
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conns7901 wrote: FavreFan wrote: WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: I don't think Lonzo Ball is a terrible player, but he couldn't win with two All-Stars in New Orleans. It just makes you a middling team with no chance to compete for a title. They are capped out, and they have no draft picks either. That's basically my problem with this and what I was getting at with Zippy. I like Lonzo but he's never won anywhere. Either has Lavine. Either has Vuc. We're putting together a core of guys that has been in the league for several years each and none have ever made the playoffs(I think Vuc did one year as a 8 seed but point remains). I don't really think there's any reasonable case to be made to be optimistic about the Bulls right now. It will be even worse when they miss the playoffs again next year and sign Lavine to a max extension. If they miss the playoffs again, someone has to be fired. Don't they? |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Caller Bob wrote: Does a lineup of Ball Lavine DeRozan Williams Vucevic get your peckers hard? How badly would you like to know? |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Caller Bob wrote: Does a lineup of Ball Lavine DeRozan Williams Vucevic get your peckers hard? How badly would you like to know?
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| Author: | The Great Northern [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Look, you know when they'll be good. You won't have to ask. That's how it works in that league. Suffice to say drafting a guy last year fourth overall who wasn't good enough to start on Florida State and then signing a couple of guards isn't the answer. And we all know it. Keep waitin'. |
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| Author: | Hussra [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Caruso gets a lot of credit for being +250 or whatever when playing with Lebron. However, Caruso with Lebron off the court has always been a negative plus/minus. Everybody looks better playing with Lebron on the court. Caruso = Matthew Dellavedova with a different accent. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:05 pm ] |
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| Author: | Hussra [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:10 pm ] |
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DeRozan = 6th seed, first round exit in the playoffs, no lottery pick. Bulls should be planning their tank for Wembanyama, not trying to secure a lower tier playoff seed in the East |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:13 pm ] |
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The "tanking for a lottery" pick really hasn't worked out for them either. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:15 pm ] |
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RFDC wrote: I kinda agree with what FF is saying but not sure what else they should do. Well, it's either this, or the opposite route and trade everyone and tank. They eliminated the latter option with the Vuc trade, so I suppose you can argue they have no other choice then to do something like this and hope guys like Lonzo, Lavine, Williams, etc improve a lot. |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:19 pm ] |
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Caller Bob wrote: The "tanking for a lottery" pick really hasn't worked out for them either. When you “tank” to draft 7th that happens. |
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| Author: | Ron Wolfley [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:10 pm ] |
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Caller Bob wrote: The "tanking for a lottery" pick really hasn't worked out for them either. Which is why building a professional and winning culture may be the best route. Let the rest follow. DeRozan gets buckets. He would complete on hell of a starting 5. At the very least, it would be a lot of fun to watch. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Their only path is to stay flexible enough to land a disgruntled star. |
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| Author: | Ron Wolfley [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
conns7901 wrote: There only path is to stay flexible enough to land a disgruntled star. Seems like there's a lot of those disgruntled stars these days. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Patrick Williams is still developing too. You want quality players in the locker room to help with that development. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Nas wrote: Patrick Williams is still developing too. You want quality players in the locker room to help with that development. Patrick Williams sucks. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Offseason Moves 2021 |
Caller Bob wrote: Nas wrote: Patrick Williams is still developing too. You want quality players in the locker room to help with that development. Patrick Williams sucks. No way anyone knows that right now. |
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