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Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Is Butler a Top 10 player?

I'm thinking so

Author:  RFDC [ Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Butler a Top 10 player?

no

Author:  St. Louis Bull Man [ Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:23 pm ]
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On some nights YES. Due to his overall game I would say that he's on the fringe of top 10. Kind of like Pippin. Some may argue that because he can bust out for 30 to 40 at any given time he's better than my boy, Scottie. :wink:

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:30 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
no

Give me your top 10 chief

Author:  RFDC [ Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:50 pm ]
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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
RFDC wrote:
no

Give me your top 10 chief


In particular order, just guys I think are currently better than Butler. He has been great this year, but just too many other guys out there for him to be top 10. Probably top 15-20

Lebron
Curry
Durant
Westbrook
Davis
Kawhi
C Paul
Anthony-Towns
Cousins
Lillard
Harden

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Butler a Top 10 player?

RFDC wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
RFDC wrote:
no

Give me your top 10 chief


In particular order, just guys I think are currently better than Butler. He has been great this year, but just too many other guys out there for him to be top 10. Probably top 15-20

Lebron
Curry
Durant
Westbrook
Davis wrong
Kawhi
C Paul
Anthony-Towns wrong you have a guy that played 1 year in your top 10....your a goofball
Cousins wrong
Lillard wrong
Harden

Author:  long time guy [ Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Butler a Top 10 player?

Walt Williams Neck wrote:
I'm thinking so


Nope. He was about the 9th man on an Olympic team that seemed like it was missing about 15 guys better. I don't know if he is top 20.

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:08 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
I'm thinking so


Nope. He was about the 9th man on an Olympic team that seemed like it was missing about 15 guys better. I don't know if he is top 20.

your wrong too

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:20 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
I'm thinking so


Nope. He was about the 9th man on an Olympic team that seemed like it was missing about 15 guys better. I don't know if he is top 20.

go ahead jag give em to me

Author:  long time guy [ Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:56 pm ]
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Curry
Durant
Klay Thompson
Blake Griffin
Westbrook
Kyrie Irving
Chris Paul
Anthony Davis.
Demarcus Cousins
LeBron James
Karl Anthony Towns
James Harden
DeMar Derozan

Kawhi Leonard
Paul George
Carmelo Anthony
John Wall
Damien Lillard

Author:  IMU [ Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:43 pm ]
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Butler is better than Cousins Klay Lillard Griffin Kyrie Derozan George and Wall

Author:  long time guy [ Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:05 pm ]
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IMU wrote:
Butler is better than Cousins Klay Lillard Griffin Kyrie Derozan George and Wall


No he isnt.

Author:  KDdidit [ Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:04 pm ]
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He's not top 10 in NBA2k17, so no.

Author:  long time guy [ Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:41 pm ]
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KDdidit wrote:
He's not top 10 in NBA2k17, so no.


He was also the 9th man on an Olympic team in which it seemed at least 15 guys declined to play.

Author:  KDdidit [ Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:08 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
He's not top 10 in NBA2k17, so no.


He was also the 9th man on an Olympic team in which it seemed at least 15 guys declined to play.


Thanks for repeating yourself!

Author:  St. Louis Bull Man [ Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:15 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
Curry
Durant
Klay Thompson
Blake Griffin
Westbrook
Kyrie Irving
Chris Paul
Anthony Davis.
Demarcus Cousins
LeBron James
Karl Anthony Towns
James Harden
DeMar Derozan

Kawhi Leonard
Paul George
Carmelo Anthony??? Are you joking?
John Wall
Damien Lillard

Author:  IMU [ Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:56 am ]
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lol, did he edit Carmelo in? I didn't even see that.

Yes, Butler is also far better than Carmelo.

LTG does not know his NBA very well.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:59 am ]
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IMU wrote:
lol, did he edit Carmelo in? I didn't even see that.

Yes, Butler is also far better than Carmelo.

LTG does not know his NBA very well.


Carmelo was also one of the people that played in front of him on the Olympic team.

Jimmy Butler was down in Harrison Barnes territory as far as playing time.

Glad to see you posting in hoop threads again now that baseball season over.

Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:19 am ]
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long time guy wrote:
IMU wrote:
lol, did he edit Carmelo in? I didn't even see that.

Yes, Butler is also far better than Carmelo.

LTG does not know his NBA very well.


Carmelo was also one of the people that played in front of him on the Olympic team.

Jimmy Butler was down in Harrison Barnes territory as far as playing time.

Glad to see you posting in hoop threads again now that baseball season over.


Minutes on the Olympic team doesn't mean a thing when judging a player on his NBA ability.

Author:  IMU [ Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:47 am ]
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long time guy wrote:
Jimmy Butler was down in Harrison Barnes territory as far as playing time.


Butler and Cousins played virtually the exact same MPG.

Your stance seems...inconsistent at best.

Especially when you consider that the USA team had far more depth at guard or swingman than they did at PF/C.

Author:  spmack [ Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:55 am ]
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RFDC wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
RFDC wrote:
no

Give me your top 10 chief


In particular order, just guys I think are currently better than Butler. He has been great this year, but just too many other guys out there for him to be top 10. Probably top 15-20

Lebron
Curry
Durant
Westbrook
Davis
Kawhi
C Paul
Anthony-Towns
Cousins
Lillard
Harden

That's a pretty damn good list. I'm not sure I'd want Butler over any of them.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:56 pm ]
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IMU wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Jimmy Butler was down in Harrison Barnes territory as far as playing time.


Butler and Cousins played virtually the exact same MPG.

Your stance seems...inconsistent at best.

Especially when you consider that the USA team had far more depth at guard or swingman than they did at PF/C.



That is true but some of the guys that you say are better played in front of him though. George Anthony and Klay all were higher on the depth chart than Butler. Irving was also one of the best players on that team also.

Truth be told I am actually rolling with Butler and Gibson this year. Gibson is the best option that they currently have at the 4 spot and I want Butler to be really good because it means that the Bulls will be good. I'm not going to place in that top 10 spot just yet. If I am truly objective he is probably about the 15th best player in the league.

Author:  IMU [ Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:51 pm ]
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You're probably just jealous of that sweet hair he has going on.

edit:

This guy is lucky to be sitting on an NBA bench.
Image

MVP candidate
Image

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:28 pm ]
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He's probably right around the 10-12 range this year. He's been great.

Author:  IMU [ Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:38 pm ]
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LeBron James
Steph Curry
Kevin Durant
James Harden
Russ Westbrook
Anthony Davis
Kawhi Leonard
Chris Paul
Jimmy Butler
Karl Anthony-Towns

That is my Top 10. I'm not locked in to the order of my 4-7. But I'm comfortable with the 10 as a whole.

And to clarify, that is the DEFINITIVE LIST.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:58 pm ]
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IMU wrote:
LeBron James
Steph Curry
Kevin Durant
James Harden
Russ Westbrook
Anthony Davis
Kawhi Leonard
Chris Paul
Jimmy Butler
Karl Anthony-Towns

That is my Top 10. I'm not locked in to the order of my 4-7. But I'm comfortable with the 10 as a whole.

And to clarify, that is the DEFINITIVE LIST.



Blake Griffin Irving and Paul George are better. there are several others but I will leave it here for now.

Author:  IMU [ Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:10 pm ]
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Yes...you've recently shared your thoughts on that. But thank you for clarifying that you still hold the same opinion that you held 45 hours ago.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:24 pm ]
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IMU wrote:
Yes...you've recently shared your thoughts on that. But thank you for clarifying that you still hold the same opinion that you held 45 hours ago.



Did I also clarify that I am happy to see that you are back posting in Basketball threads.

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:30 pm ]
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Butler has been good but he is a bit of a bumslayer. Anthony outplayed him in 3of 4 games when people on here were saying that he was better. It is hard to say a guy is better when he backed up every guy that I had in front of him. No logic in that

Author:  IMU [ Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:30 pm ]
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MLB > NHL / NBA > PGA > ATP > NFL

Olympics basketball is going to have loyalty / old boys club. Kobe would have been a starter if he wanted on the team, as an example.

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