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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
RFDC wrote: Baby McNown wrote: MCW, Cannan and a 2nd? Yes please. Lol Is that the rumored deal? Not at all. It was a joke tweet a couple hours ago from a fake account. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
has there been any actual talk of what it would actually take to get the deal done? |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
RFDC wrote: has there been any actual talk of what it would actually take to get the deal done? Mirotic and a future protected first almost certainly. After that, probably Valentine or McDermott |
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| Author: | Nas [ Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
Valentine |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
RFDC wrote: has there been any actual talk of what it would actually take to get the deal done? It's a dump. They want him gone or it would not be this much in the press. That said. I have seen nothing. I would guess that Kings pick and Valentine. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
Drake LaRrieta wrote: veganfan21 wrote: I feel sorry for KC Johnson. Dude's probably trying to figure out who to follow on Twitter so he can retweet breaking news about this trade once it happens. Wasn't he the one that Goff was following when he thought Wade and Bosh coming to the Bulls was imminent? Scoop Jackson Chris Broussard Sekou Smith |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
With Boers retired are Terry's guys now Nas's guys? |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
veganfan21 wrote: I feel sorry for KC Johnson. Dude's probably trying to figure out who to follow on Twitter so he can retweet breaking news about this trade once it happens.  There's NOTHING on his twitter timeline about this. Not even a "I haven't hear anything" or "I've reached out to sources". What a pathetic company man.
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| Author: | GoldenJet [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:01 pm ] |
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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:  |
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| Author: | City of Fools [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:33 pm ] |
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Pelicans? |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:39 pm ] |
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Ban nas. |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
Thank God, this had "disaster" written all over it. A team that can't shoot shouldn't be trading away shooters and draft picks for a slow-footed big man who can't score outside of 3 feet and is another defensive liability. |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
Follow along on twittter https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&ver ... 3Averified |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Thank God, this had "disaster" written all over it. A team that can't shoot shouldn't be trading away shooters and draft picks for a slow-footed big man who can't score outside of 3 feet and is another defensive liability. Mirotic a shooter? Currently shooting 30% from 3 and one of the absolute dumbest professional basketball players that i have ever seen. He is park district level bad as far as knowledge of the game. If Paxson can trade him for a link card with a $200 limit he should do it. SOft as butter on D and won't sniff the paint on offense. Let Philly uncover all of the untapped potential that he has. |
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| Author: | Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
My source says soon. |
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| Author: | billypootons [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
Went is Philly so anxious to deal okafor for the bulls garbage? Is he a younger boozer or something? |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
billypootons wrote: Went is Philly so anxious to deal okafor for the bulls garbage? Is he a younger boozer or something? His floor is Brook Lopez IMO. Offensively the sky is the limit but he is a poor defender and rebounder. He's a 20+ ppg guy. He can't play with Embiid so he doesn't fit this team. His 18 and 7 as a rookie was solid. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:15 pm ] |
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I heard his rebounding skills are just slightly better than those of Eddy Curry. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:23 pm ] |
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Philly is moving Okafor because of Embiid and probably the off the court stuff from last season. He isn't a bum. He is a legit starting center. If Philly is willing to trade him for the garbage that is Mirotic and a mid first let's roll. I don't trust the drafting of Garpax so that pick is probably useless. The Bulls also need NBA level talent in order to keep their top ten player happy. |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:52 pm ] |
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A team that can't shoot shouldn't be trading draft picks for a guy who 100% cannot shoot. One of the biggest problems the Bulls have, aside from a dearth of offensive talent, is being able to stretch opposing defenses. Okafor doesn't do that, in fact, he exacerbates the problem, without adding any kind of upgrade to defense and rebounding. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: A team that can't shoot shouldn't be trading draft picks for a guy who 100% cannot shoot. One of the biggest problems the Bulls have, aside from a dearth of offensive talent, is being able to stretch opposing defenses. Okafor doesn't do that, in fact, he exacerbates the problem, without adding any kind of upgrade to defense and rebounding. I'm not sure if you are serious or not. Adding a big that can score with his back to the basket is something this team needs. A big that can score with his back to the basket can create many open shots for shooters. The Bulls don't have any shooters but even if they did a shooter can't create his own shot worthless. |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
Nas wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: A team that can't shoot shouldn't be trading draft picks for a guy who 100% cannot shoot. One of the biggest problems the Bulls have, aside from a dearth of offensive talent, is being able to stretch opposing defenses. Okafor doesn't do that, in fact, he exacerbates the problem, without adding any kind of upgrade to defense and rebounding. I'm not sure if you are serious or not. Adding a big that can score with his back to the basket is something this team needs. This team needs to be able to shoot more than it needs someone with a skill-set of decades gone by. Quote: A big that can score with his back to the basket can create many open shots for shooters. Among the 29 Centers averaging at least 20 Minutes Per Game this season, Okafor is 16th in Assist%. Last year he was 21st of 33 qualified big men. So, even if that was a dire need of the Bulls (it isn't, scoring should be the first option), he's not good at it. And a team shouldn't be trading future draft positioning for someone who is not good at anything they actually need. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
If his skill set is such that no one desires it then why did he go No. 3 in the draft last season? Why draft him at all? He does things that no one seeks. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Nas wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: A team that can't shoot shouldn't be trading draft picks for a guy who 100% cannot shoot. One of the biggest problems the Bulls have, aside from a dearth of offensive talent, is being able to stretch opposing defenses. Okafor doesn't do that, in fact, he exacerbates the problem, without adding any kind of upgrade to defense and rebounding. I'm not sure if you are serious or not. Adding a big that can score with his back to the basket is something this team needs. This team needs to be able to shoot more than it needs someone with a skill-set of decades gone by. Quote: A big that can score with his back to the basket can create many open shots for shooters. Among the 29 Centers averaging at least 20 Minutes Per Game this season, Okafor is 16th in Assist%. Last year he was 21st of 33 qualified big men. So, even if that was a dire need of the Bulls (it isn't, scoring should be the first option), he's not good at it. And a team shouldn't be trading future draft positioning for someone who is not good at anything they actually need. So the Bulls shouldn't trade for a 21 year old scoring big (3rd pick in 2015 draft) because he isn't a great passer yet? They should instead hold onto draft picks that will fall outside of the lottery? They should also keep McDermott/Valentine/Mirotic because they're more valuable than Okafor? |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
Lopez Okafor Butler Wade Rondo |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:34 pm ] |
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Nas wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Nas wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: A team that can't shoot shouldn't be trading draft picks for a guy who 100% cannot shoot. One of the biggest problems the Bulls have, aside from a dearth of offensive talent, is being able to stretch opposing defenses. Okafor doesn't do that, in fact, he exacerbates the problem, without adding any kind of upgrade to defense and rebounding. I'm not sure if you are serious or not. Adding a big that can score with his back to the basket is something this team needs. This team needs to be able to shoot more than it needs someone with a skill-set of decades gone by. Quote: A big that can score with his back to the basket can create many open shots for shooters. Among the 29 Centers averaging at least 20 Minutes Per Game this season, Okafor is 16th in Assist%. Last year he was 21st of 33 qualified big men. So, even if that was a dire need of the Bulls (it isn't, scoring should be the first option), he's not good at it. And a team shouldn't be trading future draft positioning for someone who is not good at anything they actually need. So the Bulls shouldn't trade for a 21 year old scoring big (3rd pick in 2015 draft) because he isn't a great passer yet? They should instead hold onto draft picks that will fall outside of the lottery? They should also keep McDermott/Valentine/Mirotic because they're more valuable than Okafor? No, I think the Bulls shouldn't delude themselves into chasing a former #3 overall that doesn't fit their needs well at all, and should trade what assets they have for more/better draft picks. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
Nas and ltg are right. His skill set isn't as important now as it was 20 years ago but it's still an important part of the game. If you can get a player of his caliber for minimal assets it's a no brainer. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:37 pm ] |
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Terry's Peeps wrote: Ban nas. You forgot an 'a'. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Nas wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Nas wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: A team that can't shoot shouldn't be trading draft picks for a guy who 100% cannot shoot. One of the biggest problems the Bulls have, aside from a dearth of offensive talent, is being able to stretch opposing defenses. Okafor doesn't do that, in fact, he exacerbates the problem, without adding any kind of upgrade to defense and rebounding. I'm not sure if you are serious or not. Adding a big that can score with his back to the basket is something this team needs. This team needs to be able to shoot more than it needs someone with a skill-set of decades gone by. Quote: A big that can score with his back to the basket can create many open shots for shooters. Among the 29 Centers averaging at least 20 Minutes Per Game this season, Okafor is 16th in Assist%. Last year he was 21st of 33 qualified big men. So, even if that was a dire need of the Bulls (it isn't, scoring should be the first option), he's not good at it. And a team shouldn't be trading future draft positioning for someone who is not good at anything they actually need. So the Bulls shouldn't trade for a 21 year old scoring big (3rd pick in 2015 draft) because he isn't a great passer yet? They should instead hold onto draft picks that will fall outside of the lottery? They should also keep McDermott/Valentine/Mirotic because they're more valuable than Okafor? No, I think the Bulls shouldn't delude themselves into chasing a former #3 overall that doesn't fit their needs well at all, and should trade what assets they have for more/better draft picks. Their needs? They need young building blocks. Okafor would give them a potentially elite building block for pennies. What do you think you can get for any combination of Mirotic/Valentine/McDermott? A late first round pick or some shitty contracts? |
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| Author: | Hank Scorpio [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Okafor to the Bulls |
Nas wrote: Lopez Okafor Butler Wade Rondo And nary a 3pt shot was made. |
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