The essence of what a good tank job entails.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/12/1 ... oring-tank

The essence of what a good tank job entails.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/12/1 ... oring-tank

Did you even read the article?

There’s not an art to tanking. It’s not difficult to put together a roster of 12 guys who suck at basketball.

I stopped reading after "On offense, they embrace the zeitgeist"

There is something to be said for tanking. There is nothing dumber than thinking you can win with mediocre players. See the Bulls during Jalen Rose/ Crawford era.

Thinking you can win or trying to win with a roster full of losers is one of the dumbest ideas ever conceived.

You win with elite talent. Whether you acquire it by tanking or the euphemistically appealing "losing" doesn't matter.

None of that is a response to my post and tanking usually doesn’t work in the nba. I’ve proven this to you multiple times.

This tank job changed the course of history for the Bulls. People either are unaware or probably forgot about it but this subtle deal at the trade deadline allowed the Bulls an opportunity to draft the greatest player in basketball history.

You want to continue to discuss how tanking doesn't work?


http://www.nytimes.com/1984/02/16/sport ... kings.html

Figure out what tanking is. Then we can have a discussion about it. (Hint: it’s not one mid season trade)

Huh? It can be and it was in that instance. You can't redefine it to fit your narrative. That was a tank job. It was considered that at the time also.

I just provided factual evidence of how a slip of one or two slots alters the course of history.

That move enabled the Bulls to draft Jordan. The Bulls Gave Theus away in order to improve their draft position. That's tanking.

I remember it. You obviously don't.

It happened two years before I was born so you are correct that I don’t remember it happening. But the rest of your post is wrong. Tanking is purposely not competing and it’s done before a season even begins. That Bulls team doesn’t fit the definition and I haven’t redefined anything.

No you didn’t. You seem to think every bad team is tanking and every team that trades a player for draft picks is tanking. That’s wrong, and impossible to discuss tanking when you’re going by that definition.

I'm not going to debate semantics. That's futile. What I will State is that in that instance the Bulls were intentionally trying to lose in order to improve their draft position. It worked.

You won't concede that Philly Tanked. Most likely because it's working

Your conception of what constitutes a tank job is woefully off too. Tanking can occur at any point of the season. There are a few ways in which a franchise can "tank the season".

It doesn't have to begin at the beginning of the year.

The last two parts of this post are wrong, as usual. The Philly part is also wrong. I’ve never once argued they haven’t tanked, they are literally the textbook definition of tanking. I said I wouldn’t intentionally lose for 4-5 straight years like they did even to get star players.

Figure out what tanking is. Then we can have a discussion about it. (Hint: it’s not one mid season trade)

Figure out what tanking is. Then we can have a discussion about it. (Hint: it’s not one mid season trade)

Lose games
Draft Jordan because someone else took Bowie

Not exactly success by design.

Quick, trade Mirotic.

When they get Lavine back this is a 40-win type team

Lavine
Dunn
Niko
Lauri
Portis(?)
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Nwaba
Lopez
Grant
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other guys who should never see playing time.

Still hoping they can get a top 4-5 but I bet they don't.

When they get Lavine back this is a 40-win type team