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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:38 pm 
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Dunn should just stay on one side of the court he's so horrible on offense.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:13 pm 
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The Bulls have outscored their opponents with Satoransky and/or Wendell Carter on the floor. They are the only two regular Bulls players this season where you can say that.

Despite all of the scoring Lavine does, the Bulls get outscored when he is on the court. And that highlights just how bad Lavine is as a two way player, considering he has shared a ton of time on the court with one or both of those players.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:26 pm 
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The Bulls have outscored their opponents with Satoransky and/or Wendell Carter on the floor. They are the only two regular Bulls players this season where you can say that.

Despite all of the scoring Lavine does, the Bulls get outscored when he is on the court. And that highlights just how bad Lavine is as a two way player, considering he has shared a ton of time on the court with one or both of those players.


No one (besides you) thinks that either is better or having a better season than Zach Lavine.

You can't point to one game that the Bulls have won this season because either Satoransky or Carter were on the floor.

I can point to at least five where Lavine is concerned. He is their most valuable player by a mile.


It isn't saying much because the team is lousy but he isn't the problem and never has been. If the worst that anyone can say is that he isn't a legit best player then fine have at it. I will buy that.

You just cited two guys that are best suited as backups. Your parsing of stats to suit silly arguments doesn't exactly change that either.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:31 pm 
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The Bulls have outscored their opponents with Satoransky and/or Wendell Carter on the floor. They are the only two regular Bulls players this season where you can say that.

Despite all of the scoring Lavine does, the Bulls get outscored when he is on the court. And that highlights just how bad Lavine is as a two way player, considering he has shared a ton of time on the court with one or both of those players.


No one (besides you) thinks that either is better or having a better season than Zach Lavine.

You can't point to one game that the Bulls have won this season because either Satoransky or Carter were on the floor.

I can point to at least five where Lavine is concerned. He is their most valuable player by a mile.


It isn't saying much because the team is lousy but he isn't the problem and never has been. If the worst that anyone can say is that he isn't a legit best player then fine have at it. I will buy that.

You just cited two guys that are best suited as backups. Your parsing of stats to suit silly arguments doesn't exactly change that either.

The Bulls currently have 12 backups. At some point, you have to start 5 guys.

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the entire roster is trash and you're complaining about 2 of the better guys on the team! you know who is fucking terrible? Thad Young. Coby White is also terrible but at least you can say the guy is only 19 and has no one coaching him.

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IMU wrote:
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The Bulls have outscored their opponents with Satoransky and/or Wendell Carter on the floor. They are the only two regular Bulls players this season where you can say that.

Despite all of the scoring Lavine does, the Bulls get outscored when he is on the court. And that highlights just how bad Lavine is as a two way player, considering he has shared a ton of time on the court with one or both of those players.


No one (besides you) thinks that either is better or having a better season than Zach Lavine.

You can't point to one game that the Bulls have won this season because either Satoransky or Carter were on the floor.

I can point to at least five where Lavine is concerned. He is their most valuable player by a mile.


It isn't saying much because the team is lousy but he isn't the problem and never has been. If the worst that anyone can say is that he isn't a legit best player then fine have at it. I will buy that.

You just cited two guys that are best suited as backups. Your parsing of stats to suit silly arguments doesn't exactly change that either.

The Bulls currently have 12 backups. At some point, you have to start 5 guys.


Zach Lavine is a borderline All Star this year. Satoransky isn't and neither is Carter.

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the entire roster is trash and you're complaining about 2 of the better guys on the team! you know who is fucking terrible? Thad Young. Coby White is also terrible but at least you can say the guy is only 19 and has no one coaching him.


Coby White's biggest problem isn't Boylen. Coby White's biggest problem is that he isn't really all that good.

Neither Carter nor Sato are better than Lavine nor is it really all that close.

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We will be able to make this an even 20 players then:

https://newarena.com/nba/the-19-worst-a ... a-history/

If this ASG was not in Chicago, he would not even be within sniffing distance of the ASG.

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Neither Carter nor Sato are better than Lavine nor is it really all that close.


that's neither here nor there. Lavine is playing better this year, I give him credit for that.

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IMU wrote:
We will be able to make this an even 20 players then:

https://newarena.com/nba/the-19-worst-a ... a-history/

If this ASG was not in Chicago, he would not even be within sniffing distance of the ASG.


Now its only because the game is in Chicago. Ok. When did that particular excuse cross your mind? Just now?

Fact of the matter is that he is their best player. Anyone that thinks he isn't is an idiot.

He may not be the best guy on a contending team and as previously stated I don't think he is that. He never has demonstrated that he can be and after 6 seasons its been long enough. He definitely could be the 2nd or 3rd option on a contending team without question.

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IMU wrote:
We will be able to make this an even 20 players then:

https://newarena.com/nba/the-19-worst-a ... a-history/

If this ASG was not in Chicago, he would not even be within sniffing distance of the ASG.


Now its only because the game is in Chicago. Ok. When did that particular excuse cross your mind? Just now?

Since the Chicago Bulls' entire campaign for Lavine has been 'the ASG is in Chicago and Lavine plays for the Bulls.'

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IMU wrote:
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IMU wrote:
We will be able to make this an even 20 players then:

https://newarena.com/nba/the-19-worst-a ... a-history/

If this ASG was not in Chicago, he would not even be within sniffing distance of the ASG.


Now its only because the game is in Chicago. Ok. When did that particular excuse cross your mind? Just now?

Since the Chicago Bulls' entire campaign for Lavine has been 'the ASG is in Chicago and Lavine plays for the Bulls.'

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The Guys I heard discussing it last week weren't affiliated with the Bulls nor do they really give a damn about a Bulls Marketing campaign.

I doubt very seriously if they (NBA TV guys) even know about the campaign and probably couldn't care less about it if they did know. The only reason that Lavine won't be an All Star is the Bulls shitty ass record. I can agree with that if that is the reason.

He is the only reason that they have been as competitive as they've been. Sure hasn't been because of bums like Sato and the undersized and non impactful Wendell Carter Jr.

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IMU wrote:
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IMU wrote:
We will be able to make this an even 20 players then:

https://newarena.com/nba/the-19-worst-a ... a-history/

If this ASG was not in Chicago, he would not even be within sniffing distance of the ASG.


Now its only because the game is in Chicago. Ok. When did that particular excuse cross your mind? Just now?

Since the Chicago Bulls' entire campaign for Lavine has been 'the ASG is in Chicago and Lavine plays for the Bulls.'

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That Zach Lowe sure has been known to base his assessments on Bulls marketing campaigns hasn't he?
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• It's fair to ask why Young gets in over Beal and Zach LaVine -- other offense-first scorers on awful teams. I thought about disqualifying all three and picking a second player on a good team. I just couldn't find a persuasive case.

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Career high 12 straight games of 20+. 27 tonight. Like others have said it's coming while playing for a crappy team but it's a great comeback story. If he can still do this at 31 or whatever after 18 surgeries then I wonder what the past seven years would have looked like had he not been injured.

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Glad his sabotaging of those Bulls teams finally paid off for him.

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uh, nah. rose isnt gonna do shit for the team. fans would like it, but who cares about them

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the entire roster is trash and you're complaining about 2 of the better guys on the team! you know who is fucking terrible? Thad Young. Coby White is also terrible but at least you can say the guy is only 19 and has no one coaching him.


Coby White's biggest problem isn't Boylen. Coby White's biggest problem is that he isn't really all that good.

Neither Carter nor Sato are better than Lavine nor is it really all that close.


white is probably going to be a starter for at least a few years in the league. if he builds muscle he will be very good.

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Anyone else shocked that the guy who milked an ACL injury into a 2 year recovery is a COVID "Long Hauler"?

https://sports.yahoo.com/new-york-knick ... 20294.html


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Anyone else shocked that the guy who milked an ACL injury into a 2 year recovery is a COVID "Long Hauler"?

https://sports.yahoo.com/new-york-knick ... 20294.html


my god so he really is a gigantic pussy

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