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Author:  The Missing Link [ Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:21 pm ]
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Have the look of a 50 win team.

Author:  Peoria Matt [ Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:39 pm ]
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Got tickets for a Sunday game against Portland. Son wanted to see the Lakers but that's pricey. Haven't been to a game since Jalen Rose's Bulls debut. Going to be a fun team to watch this year.

Author:  The Missing Link [ Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:44 pm ]
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Peoria Matt wrote:
Got tickets for a Sunday game against Portland. Son wanted to see the Lakers but that's pricey. Haven't been to a game since Jalen Rose's Bulls debut. Going to be a fun team to watch this year.


Should be top 4 in the East. Bench is a little lean and they are a bit undersized but they are going to score and score easily.

Author:  RFDC [ Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:19 pm ]
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Man I hope you are right. Would be a lot of fun to see a good Bulls team this winter.

Author:  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:25 pm ]
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I have high hopes. It’s been a long time since I’ve watched preseason Bulls basketball.

Could be a fun team to watch.

Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:38 pm ]
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I am excited about this team as well. On a side note, I realize it was just preseason but I thought Marko Simonovic would be more of a presence. Doesn’t seem like Billy likes him.

Author:  FavreFan [ Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:42 pm ]
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I’m not letting myself get too excited yet.

Hopefully they are good

Author:  The Missing Link [ Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:31 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
I am excited about this team as well. On a side note, I realize it was just preseason but I thought Marko Simonovic would be more of a presence. Doesn’t seem like Billy likes him.


Saw him in the Vegas Summer League and seems a little light in the load. Sort of like Mirotic without the shooting ability

Author:  The Missing Link [ Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:35 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
Man I hope you are right. Would be a lot of fun to see a good Bulls team this winter.


In an offensive league they have 3 very good offensive players. That always gives you a chance. In addition is the Paw.who will be much better because he will be surrounded by better players. Have to jettison Coby White while some team believes he still has value though.

Author:  IkeSouth [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:01 am ]
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if you turn on VPN and connect to india, you can setup NBA League pass account for $20. gonna be a blast this year.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:02 am ]
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If they don't get the 3rd seed(at least), the season is a disappointment.

Author:  RFDC [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:04 am ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
If they don't get the 3rd seed(at least), the season is a disappointment.

THat is just crazy talk.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:08 am ]
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They have 3 all stars in their starting lineup, time to up your expectations.

Author:  Jaw Breaker [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:21 am ]
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I just put $300 on Over 43.5 wins. Seems like a massive fail if they don't get that.

Author:  RFDC [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:35 am ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
They have 3 all stars in their starting lineup, time to up your expectations.

They have not been in the playoffs in years. To say that year 1 of this group is top 3 or failure is just stupid.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:42 am ]
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The way the contracts are structured they pretty much have to win now or it's not gonna work.

Author:  The Missing Link [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:22 am ]
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Jaw Breaker wrote:
I just put $300 on Over 43.5 wins. Seems like a massive fail if they don't get that.


Easy money. Book it!

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:40 am ]
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Jaw Breaker wrote:
I just put $300 on Over 43.5 wins. Seems like a massive fail if they don't get that.

I threw $20 on them to win between 49-52 games at +600. Wasn't exactly sober last night when I did that

Author:  IkeSouth [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:23 pm ]
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i want to put down $100 for +1000 on 53+ wins

Author:  Tall Midget [ Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:12 am ]
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John Hollinger doesn't care much for the new-look Bulls:

Quote:
Burning question: Is there enough shooting?
There are a lot of questions one could underline here, the most obvious of which is “what exactly are we trying to do here?” Going all-in with assets just to reach the point of quasi-respectable averageness leaves the obvious unanswered question of how to get beyond it.

But let’s see the glass half full and suppose the overarching strategy pays off. Below the surface, another important micro question looms for a team that was 19th in offense: Is there enough shooting here to succeed as a modern NBA offense?

Chicago was respectable in the 3-point department a year ago — 13th in accuracy and 18th in frequency — but other than LaVine, even the drivers of that performance are mostly gone. Markkanen might have been a frustrating player, but he shot 40.2 percent from 3 on 10.2 attempts per 100; no other Bull aside from LaVine came anywhere near that, and none of the newbies do, either.

The only other Bull to take more than 200 attempts and make more than 35 percent was White, who might be out of a job this year. Valentine and Temple didn’t shoot lights out, but they were fourth and fifth on the team in 3-point attempts. Just replacing that volume will be a challenge, especially with a key perimeter player, DeRozan, shooting 3s once every leap year.

The biggest hope for offsetting 3-point accuracy would come from Vucevic, who made a career-best 40 percent last year on the season and 38.8 percent as a Bull. In terms of volume, there’s also Ball. He’s quietly become one of the league’s most improved shooters; his 12.4 attempts per 100 last season would have led the team, and he made 37.8 percent of them. And Williams, though he much preferred wandering into two-dribble pull-ups, made 39.1 percent of his rare 3-point attempts. Even with DeRozan a non-entity from the arc, there is a glass-half-full case that the starting five will have plus shooting.

As for the bench … egads. White is by far the best marksman of this crew, but even he is pushing to get to league average, plus he’s still recovering from a shoulder injury. Caruso is accurate with his feet set (37.1 percent career) but needs a ton of time and space and thus shoots 3s infrequently. The others — Bradley, Jones, Green, Brown and the two Johnsons — are players other teams won’t even bother guarding at the line. The rookie Dosunmu shot 34.5 percent from 3 for his college career, so he likely won’t shift the equation much.

Projection
The Bulls made a lot of moves to improve on last season’s 11th-place finish, but when I run through all the projections for the East, I end up with Chicago finishing … 11th.

Look deeper, and the first sentence describes things too negatively. The Bulls surely will have a better record than a year ago. While my forecast says 11th, that’s something of a worst-case scenario; they will clearly outclass the four teams behind them and only project to finish a few games out of seventh. In other words, they’re likely a Play-In candidate whose positioning within that group might be heavily determined by chance.

The key factors are going to be how much DeRozan can actually move the needle in Chicago and whether the Bulls’ most-used lineups will have enough shooting to function at a high level. This team will need to score, because even with Markkanen gone, the Bulls won’t be a defensive juggernaut. Having LaVine, DeRozan and Vucevic as the three core pieces pretty much assures they’ll surrender some points, even with a few good defenders in secondary roles.

The one way Chicago could really exceed this prediction is the one spot we haven’t really talked about: Williams. A breakout year from the second-year pro could potentially solve a lot of problems, from the iffy 3-point shooting to the lack of a defensive stopper to the paucity of quality forwards. Alas, projecting such a leap so soon requires an extremely rosy view of his body of work. The same might be said of the Bulls’ offseason.

Prediction: 37-45, 11th in Eastern Conference

Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:07 am ]
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If they don’t win 40 games it’s beyond a complete disaster. No picks. No cap. And a trash team. Seems about right though. Lost franchise.

Author:  The Missing Link [ Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:45 am ]
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Tall Midget wrote:
John Hollinger doesn't care much for the new-look Bulls:

Quote:
Burning question: Is there enough shooting?
There are a lot of questions one could underline here, the most obvious of which is “what exactly are we trying to do here?” Going all-in with assets just to reach the point of quasi-respectable averageness leaves the obvious unanswered question of how to get beyond it.

But let’s see the glass half full and suppose the overarching strategy pays off. Below the surface, another important micro question looms for a team that was 19th in offense: Is there enough shooting here to succeed as a modern NBA offense?

Chicago was respectable in the 3-point department a year ago — 13th in accuracy and 18th in frequency — but other than LaVine, even the drivers of that performance are mostly gone. Markkanen might have been a frustrating player, but he shot 40.2 percent from 3 on 10.2 attempts per 100; no other Bull aside from LaVine came anywhere near that, and none of the newbies do, either.

The only other Bull to take more than 200 attempts and make more than 35 percent was White, who might be out of a job this year. Valentine and Temple didn’t shoot lights out, but they were fourth and fifth on the team in 3-point attempts. Just replacing that volume will be a challenge, especially with a key perimeter player, DeRozan, shooting 3s once every leap year.

The biggest hope for offsetting 3-point accuracy would come from Vucevic, who made a career-best 40 percent last year on the season and 38.8 percent as a Bull. In terms of volume, there’s also Ball. He’s quietly become one of the league’s most improved shooters; his 12.4 attempts per 100 last season would have led the team, and he made 37.8 percent of them. And Williams, though he much preferred wandering into two-dribble pull-ups, made 39.1 percent of his rare 3-point attempts. Even with DeRozan a non-entity from the arc, there is a glass-half-full case that the starting five will have plus shooting.

As for the bench … egads. White is by far the best marksman of this crew, but even he is pushing to get to league average, plus he’s still recovering from a shoulder injury. Caruso is accurate with his feet set (37.1 percent career) but needs a ton of time and space and thus shoots 3s infrequently. The others — Bradley, Jones, Green, Brown and the two Johnsons — are players other teams won’t even bother guarding at the line. The rookie Dosunmu shot 34.5 percent from 3 for his college career, so he likely won’t shift the equation much.

Projection
The Bulls made a lot of moves to improve on last season’s 11th-place finish, but when I run through all the projections for the East, I end up with Chicago finishing … 11th.

Look deeper, and the first sentence describes things too negatively. The Bulls surely will have a better record than a year ago. While my forecast says 11th, that’s something of a worst-case scenario; they will clearly outclass the four teams behind them and only project to finish a few games out of seventh. In other words, they’re likely a Play-In candidate whose positioning within that group might be heavily determined by chance.

The key factors are going to be how much DeRozan can actually move the needle in Chicago and whether the Bulls’ most-used lineups will have enough shooting to function at a high level. This team will need to score, because even with Markkanen gone, the Bulls won’t be a defensive juggernaut. Having LaVine, DeRozan and Vucevic as the three core pieces pretty much assures they’ll surrender some points, even with a few good defenders in secondary roles.

The one way Chicago could really exceed this prediction is the one spot we haven’t really talked about: Williams. A breakout year from the second-year pro could potentially solve a lot of problems, from the iffy 3-point shooting to the lack of a defensive stopper to the paucity of quality forwards. Alas, projecting such a leap so soon requires an extremely rosy view of his body of work. The same might be said of the Bulls’ offseason.

Prediction: 37-45, 11th in Eastern Conference


You mean Mr. Advanced Stats himself? All the more reason to put money on the wood for them. There is no bigger reason for the decline of the NBA product than that clown. I knew he'd skew heavily towards the so called "efficiency" side of things that the modern day NBA loves so much.

Author:  The Missing Link [ Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:37 am ]
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The Bulls have a very good passing team. Ball, Derozan, Vuk and Lavine are all very good passers. Its going to be much easier to score as a result.

Author:  GoldenJet [ Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:16 am ]
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Only team in the NBA to start out 3-0 this season. This next 2 weeks will be pretty telling to see how they stack up.

Just like that, they are appointment television again.

Author:  BigW72 [ Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:38 am ]
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Let the record show....Link and FF called this well before pre-season.

You've sold me.....I will attempt to watch some Bulls Basketball this season.

Author:  Peoria Matt [ Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:07 am ]
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BigW72 wrote:
Let the record show....Link and FF called this well before pre-season.

You've sold me.....I will attempt to watch some Bulls Basketball this season.


You'll be glad you did. They're not like past Bulls teams.

Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:39 am ]
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GoldenJet wrote:
Only team in the NBA to start out 3-0 this season. This next 2 weeks will be pretty telling to see how they stack up.

Just like that, they are appointment television again.


They beat two awful teams. Wouldn’t say appointment just yet.

Author:  denisdman [ Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:43 am ]
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It looks like a fun team though and certainly worth watching. There are guys that can distribute the ball and guys that can score with relative ease. I cannot believe what a difference this new front office made in such a short time period.

Author:  FavreFan [ Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:54 am ]
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denisdman wrote:
It looks like a fun team though and certainly worth watching. There are guys that can distribute the ball and guys that can score with relative ease. I cannot believe what a difference this new front office made in such a short time period.

Yeah its definitely a fun team

Author:  Crick Ramp [ Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:56 am ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
If they don't get the 3rd seed(at least), the season is a disappointment.

That was funny

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