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A crippled John Wall isn't going help anyone get a ring. I'd agree if it was 2013. With due respect this is one of the weakest arguments you've offered in this section.


He isn't crippled though. He averaged 20 a game last season. The guy can still play. He isn't in Houston's plans that's why he is sitting. If it were 2013 you ain't getting Wall for a bum like Coby and Lonzo. Now you can.

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The Bulls don't need to shuffle the guards.

They need a big mean man.

Bulls already can grab a game by the throat. At minimum, they need a guy to keep opponents off the offensive glass. That shouldn't cost much of anything.


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The Bulls don't need to shuffle the guards.

They need a big mean man.

Bulls already can grab a game by the throat. At minimum, they need a guy to keep opponents off the offensive glass. That shouldn't cost much of anything.


They will find that guy or guys at buyout time. They need one more guy that can make a play on offense.

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Nardi wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
The Bulls don't need to shuffle the guards.

They need a big mean man.

Bulls already can grab a game by the throat. At minimum, they need a guy to keep opponents off the offensive glass. That shouldn't cost much of anything.


They will find that guy or guys at buyout time. They need one more guy that can make a play on offense.

I'm going to whisper they might already have him. Ayo


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Nardi wrote:
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The Bulls don't need to shuffle the guards.

They need a big mean man.

Bulls already can grab a game by the throat. At minimum, they need a guy to keep opponents off the offensive glass. That shouldn't cost much of anything.


They will find that guy or guys at buyout time. They need one more guy that can make a play on offense.

I'm going to whisper they might already have him. Ayo


I like Ayo but I'm not ready to go there just yet.

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The Bulls don't need to shuffle the guards.

They need a big mean man.

Bulls already can grab a game by the throat. At minimum, they need a guy to keep opponents off the offensive glass. That shouldn't cost much of anything.


They will find that guy or guys at buyout time. They need one more guy that can make a play on offense.

I'm going to whisper they might already have him. Ayo


I like Ayo but I'm not ready to go there just yet.

With the team jelled as it is, I'm not willing to trade a questionable guard for a questionable guard. At least right now anyway. John Wall ain't going anywhere until Feb. Let's take it up then.


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No. Wall is not the answer to this teams problems.

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Nardi wrote:
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Nardi wrote:
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Nardi wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
The Bulls don't need to shuffle the guards.

They need a big mean man.

Bulls already can grab a game by the throat. At minimum, they need a guy to keep opponents off the offensive glass. That shouldn't cost much of anything.


They will find that guy or guys at buyout time. They need one more guy that can make a play on offense.

I'm going to whisper they might already have him. Ayo


I like Ayo but I'm not ready to go there just yet.

With the team jelled as it is, I'm not willing to trade a questionable guard for a questionable guard. At least right now anyway. John Wall ain't going anywhere until Feb. Let's take it up then.


As presently constructed the team is a 2nd round exit waiting to happen. Again if the league was not so wide open I'd say hell no.

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I'd rather have a few poor man's Bam Adeyabo types + this generation's version of Jason Terry.

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veganfan21 wrote:
I'd rather have a few poor man's Bam Adeyabo types + this generation's version of Jason Terry.


They will be able to find a few guys to rebound if they want. Its going to be tough to find another playmaking guard. They need one badly.

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Does the city of Chicago have similar vaccine mandates to NYC? Kyrie would establish the Bulls as the favorite in the East.


He would but I don’t believe the Bulls have the requisite pieces to facilitate the move. Nets would want more than Ball and Coby.

He'd be good to go in Chicago vaccination wise.


He’s a free agent at the end of the season (more than likely opting out). The Nets aren’t going to get equal value back and they know it. If he is going to play basketball this season, it’s got to be in a different uniform.

Also, his camp has said he’d retire if traded to Philadelphia. It must really suck to be in the Nets front office.


If I were the Nets I think I do that. Irving is a headache - even if he comes back he's probably going to miss another 20 over the season to randomly volunteer at soup kitchens or whatever. Get what you can and get out.


Funny joke but Kyrie would be playing right now if he wasn't in NYC. He might not want to get a vaccine or once believed the Earth is flat but he's still the 2nd best PG in the association.


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Ron Wolfley wrote:
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Does the city of Chicago have similar vaccine mandates to NYC? Kyrie would establish the Bulls as the favorite in the East.


He would but I don’t believe the Bulls have the requisite pieces to facilitate the move. Nets would want more than Ball and Coby.

He'd be good to go in Chicago vaccination wise.


He’s a free agent at the end of the season (more than likely opting out). The Nets aren’t going to get equal value back and they know it. If he is going to play basketball this season, it’s got to be in a different uniform.

Also, his camp has said he’d retire if traded to Philadelphia. It must really suck to be in the Nets front office.


If I were the Nets I think I do that. Irving is a headache - even if he comes back he's probably going to miss another 20 over the season to randomly volunteer at soup kitchens or whatever. Get what you can and get out.


Funny joke but Kyrie would be playing right now if he wasn't in NYC. He might not want to get a vaccine or once believed the Earth is flat but he's still the 2nd best PG in the association.


The joke very much came from a place of truth. He's unreliable. He disappeared last year during the season - Nash went on record saying he didn't know where he was or what he was doing. I think later on when he returned the spin was he was taking a "mental health" day and that he also used his time to fundraise or attend some social justice-related event during his "time away." You can't rely on this kind of person. It's not unlike knowing a job-hopper who, while talented at the job, can't be trusted to produce consistently or even be around sometimes. I'm sorry, I'd rather just not have the headache. Even now, irrespective of his uninformed opinions on world events, he's single handedly sabotaging the Nets' season. Harden is forced to play a different role simply because the PG the Nets hired to play PG chooses to not be around. It's not ideal at all. You can't entrust the team to a headcase. Give me someone who shows up for work instead.

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veganfan21 wrote:
Ron Wolfley wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Ron Wolfley wrote:
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Does the city of Chicago have similar vaccine mandates to NYC? Kyrie would establish the Bulls as the favorite in the East.


He would but I don’t believe the Bulls have the requisite pieces to facilitate the move. Nets would want more than Ball and Coby.

He'd be good to go in Chicago vaccination wise.


He’s a free agent at the end of the season (more than likely opting out). The Nets aren’t going to get equal value back and they know it. If he is going to play basketball this season, it’s got to be in a different uniform.

Also, his camp has said he’d retire if traded to Philadelphia. It must really suck to be in the Nets front office.


If I were the Nets I think I do that. Irving is a headache - even if he comes back he's probably going to miss another 20 over the season to randomly volunteer at soup kitchens or whatever. Get what you can and get out.


Funny joke but Kyrie would be playing right now if he wasn't in NYC. He might not want to get a vaccine or once believed the Earth is flat but he's still the 2nd best PG in the association.


The joke very much came from a place of truth. He's unreliable. He disappeared last year during the season - Nash went on record saying he didn't know where he was or what he was doing. I think later on when he returned the spin was he was taking a "mental health" day and that he also used his time to fundraise or attend some social justice-related event during his "time away." You can't rely on this kind of person. It's not unlike knowing a job-hopper who, while talented at the job, can't be trusted to produce consistently or even be around sometimes. I'm sorry, I'd rather just not have the headache. Even now, irrespective of his uninformed opinions on world events, he's single handedly sabotaging the Nets' season. Harden is forced to play a different role simply because the PG the Nets hired to play PG chooses to not be around. It's not ideal at all. You can't entrust the team to a headcase. Give me someone who shows up for work instead.


Vegan if you are going to bash at least get the facts correct.

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Kyrie’s a turd, but he’ll show up for the playoffs. So rightfully no team will give a shit if he flakes out for a week in January.


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Let’s make terrible moves based on my personal vendettas!

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Pretty much

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Let’s make terrible moves based on my personal vendettas!


Only an idiot would believe that this was the reason.

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Keep in mind that it wasn't all that long ago that MANY believed that the "key" to improving the Bulls was to trade Lavine and build around Coby White. :roll: :roll: AK won't make this move so it's moot but if he really wants to go for a winnable title this year he should make it.

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veganfan21 wrote:
Ron Wolfley wrote:
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Ron Wolfley wrote:
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Does the city of Chicago have similar vaccine mandates to NYC? Kyrie would establish the Bulls as the favorite in the East.


He would but I don’t believe the Bulls have the requisite pieces to facilitate the move. Nets would want more than Ball and Coby.

He'd be good to go in Chicago vaccination wise.


He’s a free agent at the end of the season (more than likely opting out). The Nets aren’t going to get equal value back and they know it. If he is going to play basketball this season, it’s got to be in a different uniform.

Also, his camp has said he’d retire if traded to Philadelphia. It must really suck to be in the Nets front office.


If I were the Nets I think I do that. Irving is a headache - even if he comes back he's probably going to miss another 20 over the season to randomly volunteer at soup kitchens or whatever. Get what you can and get out.


Funny joke but Kyrie would be playing right now if he wasn't in NYC. He might not want to get a vaccine or once believed the Earth is flat but he's still the 2nd best PG in the association.


The joke very much came from a place of truth. He's unreliable. He disappeared last year during the season - Nash went on record saying he didn't know where he was or what he was doing. I think later on when he returned the spin was he was taking a "mental health" day and that he also used his time to fundraise or attend some social justice-related event during his "time away." You can't rely on this kind of person. It's not unlike knowing a job-hopper who, while talented at the job, can't be trusted to produce consistently or even be around sometimes. I'm sorry, I'd rather just not have the headache. Even now, irrespective of his uninformed opinions on world events, he's single handedly sabotaging the Nets' season. Harden is forced to play a different role simply because the PG the Nets hired to play PG chooses to not be around. It's not ideal at all. You can't entrust the team to a headcase. Give me someone who shows up for work instead.


I got you. Again though, Kyrie would be playing basketball if he’s not in NYC.


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Even if we assume that can we be sure he'd really be "present." I'm seeing this in my day to day as well post George Floyd. That event has triggered new ways of looking at things amongst many people, Irving included. People are more inclined to say "fuck it". I don't necessarily mind that at a personal level. But if someone is deeply conflicted about whether his profession is part of larger problem or not then it's hard - for me - to trust he'll deliver. I think he should retire and pursue social justice causes. But if he wants to play then he has to be 100% committed. I don't think he's figured that out.

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Read a couple articles that say Deaaron Fox may be available.. they have too many guards as is and looking to rebuild.. can we make it happen.

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Even if we assume that can we be sure he'd really be "present." I'm seeing this in my day to day as well post George Floyd. That event has triggered new ways of looking at things amongst many people, Irving included. People are more inclined to say "fuck it". I don't necessarily mind that at a personal level. But if someone is deeply conflicted about whether his profession is part of larger problem or not then it's hard - for me - to trust he'll deliver. I think he should retire and pursue social justice causes. But if he wants to play then he has to be 100% committed. I don't think he's figured that out.


I just don't think it's that complicated. Kyrie doesn't want to get vaccinated. New York City says if you are not vaccinated, you cannot attend any indoor event. He could play road games but the Nets are not letting him do that. So again, if Kyrie were in a Bulls, Suns, or Heat uniform, he'd be playing basketball right now.


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Read a couple articles that say Deaaron Fox may be available.. they have too many guards as is and looking to rebuild.. can we make it happen.


That would be cool. I thought Bagley was a more reasonable acquisition.


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Even if we assume that can we be sure he'd really be "present." I'm seeing this in my day to day as well post George Floyd. That event has triggered new ways of looking at things amongst many people, Irving included. People are more inclined to say "fuck it". I don't necessarily mind that at a personal level. But if someone is deeply conflicted about whether his profession is part of larger problem or not then it's hard - for me - to trust he'll deliver. I think he should retire and pursue social justice causes. But if he wants to play then he has to be 100% committed. I don't think he's figured that out.


I just don't think it's that complicated. Kyrie doesn't want to get vaccinated. New York City says if you are not vaccinated, you cannot attend any indoor event. He could play road games but the Nets are not letting him do that. So again, if Kyrie were in a Bulls, Suns, or Heat uniform, he'd be playing basketball right now.


Then when you have to play the Knicks or Nets in the playoffs he can not play in half of the games. Hard pass.

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Even if we assume that can we be sure he'd really be "present." I'm seeing this in my day to day as well post George Floyd. That event has triggered new ways of looking at things amongst many people, Irving included. People are more inclined to say "fuck it". I don't necessarily mind that at a personal level. But if someone is deeply conflicted about whether his profession is part of larger problem or not then it's hard - for me - to trust he'll deliver. I think he should retire and pursue social justice causes. But if he wants to play then he has to be 100% committed. I don't think he's figured that out.


I just don't think it's that complicated. Kyrie doesn't want to get vaccinated. New York City says if you are not vaccinated, you cannot attend any indoor event. He could play road games but the Nets are not letting him do that. So again, if Kyrie were in a Bulls, Suns, or Heat uniform, he'd be playing basketball right now.


Then when you have to play the Knicks or Nets in the playoffs he can not play in half of the games. Hard pass.


Out-of-town teams/players are exempt from the mandates.


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Does the city of Chicago have similar vaccine mandates to NYC? Kyrie would establish the Bulls as the favorite in the East.


He would but I don’t believe the Bulls have the requisite pieces to facilitate the move. Nets would want more than Ball and Coby.

He'd be good to go in Chicago vaccination wise.


He’s a free agent at the end of the season (more than likely opting out). The Nets aren’t going to get equal value back and they know it. If he is going to play basketball this season, it’s got to be in a different uniform.

Also, his camp has said he’d retire if traded to Philadelphia. It must really suck to be in the Nets front office.


If I were the Nets I think I do that. Irving is a headache - even if he comes back he's probably going to miss another 20 over the season to randomly volunteer at soup kitchens or whatever. Get what you can and get out.


Funny joke but Kyrie would be playing right now if he wasn't in NYC. He might not want to get a vaccine or once believed the Earth is flat but he's still the 2nd best PG in the association.


No.

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Kyrie’s a turd, but he’ll show up for the playoffs. So rightfully no team will give a shit if he flakes out for a week in January.



Unless it's game 7 of the ECF. Just ask his former teammates on Boston. I think his ticket is still waiting at will call.

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Does the city of Chicago have similar vaccine mandates to NYC? Kyrie would establish the Bulls as the favorite in the East.


He would but I don’t believe the Bulls have the requisite pieces to facilitate the move. Nets would want more than Ball and Coby.

He'd be good to go in Chicago vaccination wise.


He’s a free agent at the end of the season (more than likely opting out). The Nets aren’t going to get equal value back and they know it. If he is going to play basketball this season, it’s got to be in a different uniform.

Also, his camp has said he’d retire if traded to Philadelphia. It must really suck to be in the Nets front office.


If I were the Nets I think I do that. Irving is a headache - even if he comes back he's probably going to miss another 20 over the season to randomly volunteer at soup kitchens or whatever. Get what you can and get out.


Funny joke but Kyrie would be playing right now if he wasn't in NYC. He might not want to get a vaccine or once believed the Earth is flat but he's still the 2nd best PG in the association.


No.


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Read a couple articles that say Deaaron Fox may be available.. they have too many guards as is and looking to rebuild.. can we make it happen.


That would be cool. I thought Bagley was a more reasonable acquisition.


From wgat I read they want to tank again. He is their best asset

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I'm not saying aye or nay, but he is the one PG worse at defense than Trae.


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Does this team need another high volume guy?

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