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 Post subject: 2017 Offseason
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:29 pm 
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Who do we lose?

Does Q's chair start to get a bit warmer?

Six month thread starts...shortly.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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Who do we lose?

Pat Foley, reportedly.

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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Who do we lose?

Pat Foley, reportedly.


Is he not getting enough respect from ownership again?


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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Las Vegas appeals to him. Maybe Bathhouse Betty has a residency.

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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Minooka Meatball wrote:
Who do we lose?

Does Q's chair start to get a bit warmer?

Six month thread starts...shortly.


Campbell & Oduya obviously. TVR & Kruger to Las Vegas in expansion draft.

Trade Panarin or Crawford.

Bring up young d-men and stick with them! Defense look very old and tired, need our prospects to step in and take on some of the load.

Find a center or two that can win faceoffs on a consistent basis.


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Curious Hair to a Las Vegas messageboard and we get a guy back who tells us how to gamble better.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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TVR & Kruger to Las Vegas in expansion draft.

They only get one claim per team.

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Curious Hair to a Las Vegas messageboard and we get a guy back who tells us how to gamble better.

I'll bake my shit and eat it before I root for anything having to do with Las Vegas.

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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With all the no movement clauses, all you can really do is make a commitment to getting younger at every open position.

Desardains, TooToo, Oduya, Campbell and Rosival all need to be replaced by players under 25. You put out anything for takers on Towes. Seabrook, Hammer and Hossa.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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They have to gut the defense and get rid of 2 of the big contracts. This is probably impossible so they will likely just be older and increasingly average for a long time. You can probably trade panarin since the great short one can take his spot and not cost anything for a bit. In hope there are some future coyotes on the plane ride home tonight.

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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Bowman really fucked up with these long deals/no movement clauses.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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Bowman really fucked up with these long deals/no movement clauses.
ill take the 3 cups and this dilemma any day. I think he can get takers in 19, 4 and 2. 4 isn't that expensive and doesn't have a billion miles on his body like 2.

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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Bowman really fucked up with these long deals/no movement clauses.
ill take the 3 cups and this dilemma any day. I think he can get takers in 19, 4 and 2. 4 isn't that expensive and doesn't have a billion miles on his body like 2.


Florida and Uncle Dale would take Toews in a heartbeat, but the Hawks PR machine isn't trading him.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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Ever since Toews and Keith for that matter started taking those bullshit Onnit supplements their play has gone to the gutter.

https://www.onnit.com/pro-team/


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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Boobstein wrote:
Ever since Toews and Keith for that matter started taking those bullshit Onnit supplements their play has gone to the gutter.

https://www.onnit.com/pro-team/


ToewsHC

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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Boobstein wrote:
Ever since Toews and Keith for that matter started taking those bullshit Onnit supplements their play has gone to the gutter.

https://www.onnit.com/pro-team/



I really think the concussions & back problems have reduced Toews' ability to play physical.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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Boobstein wrote:
Ever since Toews and Keith for that matter started taking those bullshit Onnit supplements their play has gone to the gutter.

https://www.onnit.com/pro-team/


https://www.onnit.com/academy/the-effec ... cing-drug/

This series says no. No, it is not.

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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I would like from a Hawks standpoint to trade Crawford & Panarin to the Islanders for Leddy & Anders Lee.

Re-sign Darling, bring in a veteran goalie as a backup.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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I still would be terrified to see Darling as the starter, but if you can find a way to move Crawford, now is the time.

Hammer may not be as old as KeithBrook, but he has been beat to hell.

Panarin is probably the easiest to trade and get back some value.

Would Toews want to play for his hometown team?


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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I still would be terrified to see Darling as the starter, but if you can find a way to move Crawford, now is the time.

Hammer may not be as old as KeithBrook, but he has been beat to hell.

Panarin is probably the easiest to trade and get back some value.

Would Toews want to play for his hometown team?


I don't think toews or Crawford are going anywhere.

Gotta try and trade seabrook anyway you can

If hossa decides to retire (possibly), does the money he is still owed count against the cap or can they pay that without it affecting the cap? if he retires

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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I still would be terrified to see Darling as the starter, but if you can find a way to move Crawford, now is the time.

Hammer may not be as old as KeithBrook, but he has been beat to hell.

Panarin is probably the easiest to trade and get back some value.

Would Toews want to play for his hometown team?


I don't think toews or Crawford are going anywhere.

Gotta try and trade seabrook anyway you can

If hossa decides to retire (possibly), does the money he is still owed count against the cap or can they pay that without it affecting the cap? if he retires


Retires, 100% against the cap. He would have to have an injury and go on a list.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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I still would be terrified to see Darling as the starter, but if you can find a way to move Crawford, now is the time.

Hammer may not be as old as KeithBrook, but he has been beat to hell.

Panarin is probably the easiest to trade and get back some value.

Would Toews want to play for his hometown team?


I don't think toews or Crawford are going anywhere.

Gotta try and trade seabrook anyway you can

If hossa decides to retire (possibly), does the money he is still owed count against the cap or can they pay that without it affecting the cap? if he retires


Retires, 100% against the cap. He would have to have an injury and go on a list.

Could they do like with Pronger and have him be "injured" for the next 10 years? I wasn't sure how Philly pulled that off.

Oh and 19 isn't going anywhere.

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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Those contracts to Seabs and Toews are going nowhere even if Bowmans wanted to dump them. Unless the cap goes up it's going to be a lot of teams like this one. Hopefully they can draft well and hit on some but you don't have a lot of wiggle room when 4 roster spots eat up 33 million of your cap for next 6 years.

To free up some space for next couple years you pray Vegas picks Kruger. Also you could try to trade Hammer and probably Panarin which blows.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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Baby McNown wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Dreadnaught847 wrote:
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I still would be terrified to see Darling as the starter, but if you can find a way to move Crawford, now is the time.

Hammer may not be as old as KeithBrook, but he has been beat to hell.

Panarin is probably the easiest to trade and get back some value.

Would Toews want to play for his hometown team?


I don't think toews or Crawford are going anywhere.

Gotta try and trade seabrook anyway you can

If hossa decides to retire (possibly), does the money he is still owed count against the cap or can they pay that without it affecting the cap? if he retires


Retires, 100% against the cap. He would have to have an injury and go on a list.

Could they do like with Pronger and have him be "injured" for the next 10 years? I wasn't sure how Philly pulled that off.

Oh and 19 isn't going anywhere.


Yes. That is the only way unless he plays out his deal, to well....deal with this.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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Could they do like with Pronger and have him be "injured" for the next 10 years? I wasn't sure how Philly pulled that off.


Didn't they manage to trade the contract to Phoenix for cap relief, too?

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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Could they do like with Pronger and have him be "injured" for the next 10 years? I wasn't sure how Philly pulled that off.


Didn't they manage to trade the contract to Phoenix for cap relief, too?



Yes, the NHL helped them with that. He was/is working for the NHL Office and getting paid of the Yotes/NHL. Ohhh, and playing in Hockey charity games.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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Yeah the league pay back to the Hawks Hossa contract shannigans was a kick to the nuts. Hey, they had a good run of 6-7 years that's about the lifespan of most dynasty.


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Yeah the league pay back to the Hawks Hossa contract shannigans was a kick to the nuts. Hey, they had a good run of 6-7 years that's about the lifespan of most dynasty.

It was worth it.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Offseason
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It was. Although I always envisioned the dynasty end to be something like losing in the ECF a few times, but at least putting up a fight. I didn't see getting swept/embarrassed in the 1st round happening. They got old, slow and bad overnight.


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It was. Although I always envisioned the dynasty end to be something like losing in the ECF a few times, but at least putting up a fight. I didn't see getting swept/embarrassed in the 1st round happening. They got old, slow and bad overnight.



We said the same after the 2nd cup. I am hoping for this to light a fire for next year. I hope they are all embarrassed.


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