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 Post subject: Re: Blackhawks vs. Wild
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:05 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Blackhawks vs. Wild
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 Post subject: Re: Blackhawks vs. Wild
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:53 pm 
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Not sure how that was a goal.

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 Post subject: Re: Blackhawks vs. Wild
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:54 pm 
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Clearly offsides. WTF?!

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 Post subject: Re: Blackhawks vs. Wild
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denisdman wrote:
Not sure how that was a goal.

What Is the fucking point of replay when they still get it wrong. That is crap.


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 Post subject: Re: Blackhawks vs. Wild
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Peter Puck wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Not sure how that was a goal.

What Is the fucking point of replay when they still get it wrong. That is crap.

Yeah I don't know how that stood.

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 Post subject: Re: Blackhawks vs. Wild
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:00 pm 
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badrogue17 wrote:
Peter Puck wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Not sure how that was a goal.

What Is the fucking point of replay when they still get it wrong. That is crap.

Yeah I don't know how that stood.

The only thing I can remotely.think of is that the ref thought the Hawks knocked the puck back into the zone themselves?


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 Post subject: Re: Blackhawks vs. Wild
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:00 pm 
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As someone who has played hockey and knows the rulebook, the refs got the call right on the review.

While Zucker enters the zone ahead of the puck, it is Seabrook's skate which propels it into the zone and not Zucker or another Wild. Thus the play is officially onside as any attacking player in the zone becomes onside if the puck enters after being put in by a defending player.

It sucks, but that goal is 100% on Seabrook and the refs did get it right.

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 Post subject: Re: Blackhawks vs. Wild
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
As someone who has played hockey and knows the rulebook, the refs got the call right on the review.

While Zucker enters the zone ahead of the puck, it is Seabrook's skate which propels it into the zone and not Zucker or another Wild. Thus the play is officially onside as any attacking player in the zone becomes onside if the puck enters after being put in by a defending player.

It sucks, but that goal is 100% on Seabrook and the refs did get it right.

Foley saying that is not the explanation from the ref though. Saying Wild player maintained control.

Didn't look to me that Seabrook intentionally brought the puck into the zone, just that it hit off his skate.


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 Post subject: Re: Blackhawks vs. Wild
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:17 pm 
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Peter Puck wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
As someone who has played hockey and knows the rulebook, the refs got the call right on the review.

While Zucker enters the zone ahead of the puck, it is Seabrook's skate which propels it into the zone and not Zucker or another Wild. Thus the play is officially onside as any attacking player in the zone becomes onside if the puck enters after being put in by a defending player.

It sucks, but that goal is 100% on Seabrook and the refs did get it right.

Foley saying that is not the explanation from the ref though. Saying Wild player maintained control.

Didn't look to me that Seabrook intentionally brought the puck into the zone, just that it hit off his skate.

From rule 83.1:

If a player legally carries or passes the puck back into his own defending zone while a player of the opposing team is in such defending zone, the off-side shall be ignored and play permitted to continue.

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 Post subject: Re: Blackhawks vs. Wild
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:20 pm 
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I tend not to trust Foley for analysis. that's where you really need Eddie O in the booth as he would've known what was up. Foley is too busy trying to crack a stupid tree-tirty-tree joke probably.

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 Post subject: Re: Blackhawks vs. Wild
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
I tend not to trust Foley for analysis. that's where you really need Eddie O in the booth as he would've known what was up. Foley is too busy trying to crack a stupid tree-tirty-tree joke probably.

It wasn't Foley's analysis versus reporting the ref's purported explanation, but otherwise I agree with you.


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 Post subject: Re: Blackhawks vs. Wild
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:31 pm 
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Peter Puck wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
As someone who has played hockey and knows the rulebook, the refs got the call right on the review.

While Zucker enters the zone ahead of the puck, it is Seabrook's skate which propels it into the zone and not Zucker or another Wild. Thus the play is officially onside as any attacking player in the zone becomes onside if the puck enters after being put in by a defending player.

It sucks, but that goal is 100% on Seabrook and the refs did get it right.

Foley saying that is not the explanation from the ref though. Saying Wild player maintained control.

Didn't look to me that Seabrook intentionally brought the puck into the zone, just that it hit off his skate.

From rule 83.1:

If a player legally carries or passes the puck back into his own defending zone while a player of the opposing team is in such defending zone, the off-side shall be ignored and play permitted to continue.

Legally carries is obviously the key here. I guess the puck fortuitously being knocked off your skate constitutes legally carrying the puck.


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 Post subject: Re: Blackhawks vs. Wild
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:37 pm 
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Peter Puck wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
As someone who has played hockey and knows the rulebook, the refs got the call right on the review.

While Zucker enters the zone ahead of the puck, it is Seabrook's skate which propels it into the zone and not Zucker or another Wild. Thus the play is officially onside as any attacking player in the zone becomes onside if the puck enters after being put in by a defending player.

It sucks, but that goal is 100% on Seabrook and the refs did get it right.

Foley saying that is not the explanation from the ref though. Saying Wild player maintained control.

Didn't look to me that Seabrook intentionally brought the puck into the zone, just that it hit off his skate.

From rule 83.1:

If a player legally carries or passes the puck back into his own defending zone while a player of the opposing team is in such defending zone, the off-side shall be ignored and play permitted to continue.


Q ain't buying that the rule applied in this instance.


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 Post subject: Re: Blackhawks vs. Wild
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:10 am 
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Foligno has a broken bone in his face from that punch.

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 Post subject: Re: Blackhawks vs. Wild
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:19 am 
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Foligno has a broken bone in his face from that punch.



That was a beauty. Foligno should have worried more about protecting his face than getting Hayden's helmet off.

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 Post subject: Re: Blackhawks vs. Wild
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 Post subject: Re: Blackhawks vs. Wild
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We are back to shitty again?


Do other good teams get cocky and play with a lack of intensity and urgency as much as the Blackhawks?

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