i'm willing to give the new regime lots of time. looks like they couldn't wait to dump dach and too bad they couldn't convince the canadiens that his name is really dachier - they would have gotten more.

i don't see any positive sea-change happening until the kane and certainly the toews contracts go away. poor kane, lost his snipers panarin and now debrincat. panarin was lost to recapture saad - due to bowman getting bickell all wrong. to me, that was the start of the unraveling.



just too many crosschecks to the back of the head.

It's going to take YEARS for this to turn around. I keep hearing a 5 year rebuild but that's if they hit with these players and their tank pays off in a couple elite players the next 2 drafts. They have very little in the minors right now. Reichel looks to be a top 6 winger and maybe Commesso becomes a starting goalie but everything else is just bottom 6 and bottom pairing guys. I'm not a Hawks fan but I'd be happy they went this route if I were one.

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The DeBrincat trade combined with the Mrazek trade makes a little more sense even though I think they needed a 2023 pick in there as well.

DeBrincat for #7, #25, Mrazek, and the 2024 3rd, with the total money staying about the same but half of it being pushed out a year. In theory, that should let them absorb another $3M expiring contract for maybe a 3rd next year.

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It is all they can do right now with the current situation of the team and minors.

It sucks. But we got to see quite the run of dominance.

Hopefully the hit on a few guys and can get it turned around at some point.

I have no issues with what they are doing. And I will be pulling for Kane wherever he ends up. And I hope for his sake Toews heads to the farm and enjoys his retirement. He deserves it.

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Stan should burn in hell for what he did the last 5 years. He traded away every prospect and every draft pick and got shit back every time. It sucks seeing guys like Hagel and the Cat go but it has to be done in order to be bad enough to build it from the foundation up. Now what the hell do they do with Jones? He will be awful by the time this team is good. Is he just around to keep them above the cap floor? I would trade him away too for whatever I could get and then load up on shit contacts from other teams coupled with prospects/picks to keep above the floor.

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I read somewhere (maybe Second City Hockey) that Jones' NTC is only on his extension, which starts on Tuesday.

I won't be surprised if they trade him, but then again they need to pay somebody the year after this one.

Jones for a Seabrook type LTIR dump of about $12M and a 2024 1st and 3rd round pick, anyone?

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

Word on the street is that Duncan Keith is retiring, so that’s a $5M+ cap hit for the Hawks for next season:

https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/sta ... e3adba32a5

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Not a mult.

Let me know when they retire #2 to the rafters.
Probably the only time I'll go to a Hawks' game in the next 5 years.

Nice recap of all their picks

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/black ... A1PksIwj-s

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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How many Poles does it take to bring the Blackhawks back to the Stanley Cup? Two!

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

And one pole, that of Brad Aldrich, to ruin the franchise’s reputation.

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I was having this conversation last night- does Bowman ever get another job of consequence in the NHL? Couple the Beach incident which I don't hold him as responsible as McDonough and Q, AND the way he left the team with the Jones trade. He literally set the Hawks back a couple years with the god awful trade.

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Well they sure had a lot of picks. I’ll say that

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yes, no guarantee they will make the right selections if gifted with high picks.

i think next year the league cap numbers are $82.5 mil cap/$61 mil floor. i was wondering what happened to their european scouts? is the club still funding the european scouting? i'm betting those funds dried up quick.



the 2022-23 hawks are already $5+ mil OVER the floor at $66+ million and that is with only 16 salaries out of 23 salaries on a full active roster. in a rebuild, no chance of paying big money for a wonderkid finnish winger or swedish d-man.

Across the board with this draft.....the theme seemed to be all gas and no brake. Motor..motor...motor...that was the theme with every pick. Should be fun to watch if it comes together.

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The Blackhawks have a woman assistant GM now. I'm sure that will fix all our problems.

We all know you need to have balls to be successful in that role.

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The organization must have stockpiles of cash somewhere because there will be absolutely no reason for anyone to spend money on what are now insanely overpriced tickets to attend games, or buy any team gear, or spend a second watching a game in the post Foley era.

The bandwagon jumping championship fans are long gone, but there is a very real possibility that many long term fans will find something else to do with their time in the winter, and it will take a long time to bring them back if they ever come back.

Good thing the Wirtz family has the distribution business because they would be in for some hard times financially if they had to depend on their hockey team for income.

Maybe they couldn't find a qualified man that believes he is a woman.

I think all 3 will get blacklisted.

Agreed, and Q is the one who deserves it least. He was never really allowed to control his coaching staff; it was always set out for him until they set him up to fail. "I don't have time for this" was the right thing for him to say in his position. Bowman had all kinds of time. What else did he have to do?

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Kubalik and Strome non-tendered, return of big fat nothing. This is going to be worse than 2002-2007, because now in addition to being bad, the media says the Blackhawks are advocates of white supremacy and gay rape.

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Well that is just back to Bernsie’s all Hawks fans are KKK etc and impregnate themselves at parades. So the media will be happy us cretins are no longer noticed.

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I think Q coaches again. There's already been rumblings and hockey culture and the old boys' network is forgiving. McDonough probably stays retired or takes another position in a different sport.

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While we'll never get the answer, I am curious what the financial hit will be for this. 41 home dates- let's say attendance averages 12k. Their payroll drops 15 M to roughly 65-70 M. How much does their profit decrease? Do they lose money?

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Sponsorships and ad revenue as well. I’m surprised they couldn’t get a late round pick at least for one of those two. Was looking at the depth chart right after draft and it was awful even before the non tenders. The Jones trade set it back a year or two and they still sucked last year. Train wreck.

Derek King to be an assistant.

He seems like a good dude. Glad he is getting a chance to stick around, but that is going to be kinda odd. Be interim head coach, want to be the head coach full time and now be an assistant to another head coach.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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I wonder if he was really Richardson's choice or if King was handed to him by Davidson. If I were King, I probably would have opted to seek employment elsewhere.

Coach Q is 63 years old. I would guess at least another year out would be needed....I just don't see it. I think he's done. Bowman and McDonough will / should be blacklisted.

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Wondering what Kane brings back in a trade? He has refusal rights, so if he wants to go to a contending team you would get back first round picks at the end of the first round at best.

All the talk is about tanking badly enough to secure the first overall pick for the Bedard kid who is supposed to be one of the best prospects in years.