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Four a 7th round pick. Can't be worse than Jujar Khaira...


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Love it! Another well respected vet coming here for nothing to mentor Bedard.

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Isn't he a FA? Couldn't they just sign him?


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Blackhawks would be 4th or 5th on the list of teams the NHL might would possibly rig the draft lottery for in the 2023 draft: Red Wings would be first, much longer stretch of success and broader fan base, if you're looking to juice a franchise. And the Ilitch family vs Wirtz? Maybe Montreal or the Penguins before the Blackhawks. There aren't any Bowmans left in the Blackhawks front-office, are there? Maybe Scotty's gravity could pull the lottery his way. But I thought he was retired to FLA watching Bolts games.


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there was no cheating. The Hawks had balls in the bingo, at like, 15%. Its not unbelievable they ended up with the pick.

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This pencil-necked midget is the future of the NHL?


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This pencil-necked midget is the future of the NHL?




He is gonna be dominant!


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This pencil-necked midget is the future of the NHL?




He is gonna be dominant!


I don't know anything about hockey, but it seems unlikely.

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TM you must have missed pictures of Kane when he was a new draftee.

No doubt he looks like a pencil necked dweeb in this pic, but you put skates on the kid and a stick in his hand and he transforms into dominant.

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TM you must have missed pictures of Kane when he was a new draftee.

No doubt he looks like a pencil necked dweeb in this pic, but you put skates on the kid and a stick in his hand and he transforms into dominant.


Kane is an anomaly, though, isn't he? I'm not saying this guy won't be good, but I'm not so sure about "dominant".

I guess we'll find out soon enough how good he really is.

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No doubt we will see. But I will be very shocked if the kid is not dominant. He has all the skills and appears to be a really hard worker who is all in on being a great player.

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This pencil-necked midget is the future of the NHL?




They said the same thing about this guy:

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This pencil-necked midget is the future of the NHL?




They said the same thing about this guy:

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That is One of the Great photos I have ever seen.


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No doubt we will see. But I will be very shocked if the kid is not dominant. He has all the skills and appears to be a really hard worker who is all in on being a great player.



What do people really expect from him though? He probably isn't going to be Gretzky or McDavid or Crosby. Will you be disappointed if he's Denis Savard or Yvan Cournoyer?

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No doubt we will see. But I will be very shocked if the kid is not dominant. He has all the skills and appears to be a really hard worker who is all in on being a great player.



What do people really expect from him though? He probably isn't going to be Gretzky or McDavid or Crosby. Will you be disappointed if he's Denis Savard or Yvan Cournoyer?


I think more than the expectation it is just knowing you got the best available this year. Anything is possible. If health or the organization screws it up then so be it.

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 Post subject: Re: Connor Era
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
RFDC wrote:
No doubt we will see. But I will be very shocked if the kid is not dominant. He has all the skills and appears to be a really hard worker who is all in on being a great player.



What do people really expect from him though? He probably isn't going to be Gretzky or McDavid or Crosby. Will you be disappointed if he's Denis Savard or Yvan Cournoyer?

He is expected to be the best player on a Hawks team that competes for Cups. If he is not that then he will be a disappointment.

I don't think anyone is ever going to be Gretzky.

But I don't think it is too much to expect him to be on the level of McDavid or Crosby.

He is considered the best prospect since those very guys.

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RFDC wrote:
No doubt we will see. But I will be very shocked if the kid is not dominant. He has all the skills and appears to be a really hard worker who is all in on being a great player.



What do people really expect from him though? He probably isn't going to be Gretzky or McDavid or Crosby. Will you be disappointed if he's Denis Savard or Yvan Cournoyer?



He is too good to be a bust. You might be on the right track. Perhaps he won't be one of the greatest, but he could be really good like a Kane. I think he will be a better version of Patrick Kane.


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No doubt we will see. But I will be very shocked if the kid is not dominant. He has all the skills and appears to be a really hard worker who is all in on being a great player.



What do people really expect from him though? He probably isn't going to be Gretzky or McDavid or Crosby. Will you be disappointed if he's Denis Savard or Yvan Cournoyer?

He is expected to be the best player on a Hawks team that competes for Cups. If he is not that then he will be a disappointment.

I don't think anyone is ever going to be Gretzky.

But I don't think it is too much to expect him to be on the level of McDavid or Crosby.

He is considered the best prospect since those very guys.


Those are lofty expectations. I may actually watch part of an NHL game this season to check him out.

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If he is Kane or Savard level and he leads the Hawks to a Cup I will be happy.

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But I don't think it is too much to expect him to be on the level of McDavid or Crosby.



I think it's a lot to expect that. Those are big strong players. It's a different era and the numbers aren't going to be the same but there are sharp hockey guys who consider McDavid the equal of Gretzky.

I get the feeling Hawks fans will be disappointed if he is like Savard or Marcel Dionne or Martin St. Louis, little guys guys who are Hall of Famers. I wouldn't bet on him being better than Kane, but that's pretty fucking good.

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But I don't think it is too much to expect him to be on the level of McDavid or Crosby.



I think it's a lot to expect that. Those are big strong players. It's a different era and the numbers aren't going to be the same but there are sharp hockey guys who consider McDavid the equal of Gretzky.

I get the feeling Hawks fans will be disappointed if he is like Savard or Marcel Dionne or Martin St. Louis, little guys guys who are Hall of Famers. I wouldn't bet on him being better than Kane, but that's pretty fucking good.

It is just the nature of the beast when you are a the #1 pick in a loaded draft.

McDavid is not the equal of Gretzky, he will have to lead his team to some cups to be in that discussion, imo. He is great tho.

And different people have different expectations. LIke I said if he is a HOFer who leads the Hawks to compete for Cups I personally will be happy.

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Whoever considers McDavid the equal of Gretzky right now is kind of an idiot


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Whoever considers McDavid the equal of Gretzky right now is kind of an idiot


He's dominating the league in a similar manner to Gretzky. Unfortunately for him he isn't playing with Messier, Coffey, etc.

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Whoever considers McDavid the equal of Gretzky right now is kind of an idiot


He's dominating the league in a similar manner to Gretzky. Unfortunately for him he isn't playing with Messier, Coffey, etc.


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Whoever considers McDavid the equal of Gretzky right now is kind of an idiot


He's dominating the league in a similar manner to Gretzky. Unfortunately for him he isn't playing with Messier, Coffey, etc.

But he isnt.

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Whoever considers McDavid the equal of Gretzky right now is kind of an idiot


He's dominating the league in a similar manner to Gretzky. Unfortunately for him he isn't playing with Messier, Coffey, etc.

But he isnt.



He really is though. The style of play just isn't as wide open as it was during Gretzky's time. Plus the goalies are now the size of offensive linemen.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Whoever considers McDavid the equal of Gretzky right now is kind of an idiot


He's dominating the league in a similar manner to Gretzky. Unfortunately for him he isn't playing with Messier, Coffey, etc.

But he isnt.



He really is though. The style of play just isn't as wide open as it was during Gretzky's time. Plus the goalies are now the size of offensive linemen.

No doubt the eras are different. But he is still not in Gretzkys league.

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RFDC wrote:
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RFDC wrote:
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Whoever considers McDavid the equal of Gretzky right now is kind of an idiot


He's dominating the league in a similar manner to Gretzky. Unfortunately for him he isn't playing with Messier, Coffey, etc.

But he isnt.



He really is though. The style of play just isn't as wide open as it was during Gretzky's time. Plus the goalies are now the size of offensive linemen.

No doubt the eras are different. But he is still not in Gretzkys league.



I don't think so myself, but I can see how a case could be made. I'll never think Tiger was as good as Nicklaus either. You'll never think LeBron is as good as Jordan. There are legit arguments each way though.

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