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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:24 pm 
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lukas reichel last spotted heading west on the 90. beauvillier back, on 2nd line with dickinson and stiff anderson. looks like another stiff, sanford, is out and will watch from the press box with another stiff, r. johnson. phillips out, crevier in.

carolina will play their back-up goaltender, looks like andersen is healthy again. i'll watch, hope to see bedard keep going.


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Looks like I can catch this on ESPN+.

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yeah, think we'll see some goals. took the over, 5 1/2.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:34 pm 
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I didn't even realize that they were down here this week. I went last year, tickets were $119 for 5th row blue line and $30 to park. Don't need to do it again.

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wretched first 2 periods...took the hawks getting punked by the canes' back-up goaltender to wake them up. bedard didn't back down and despite getting humiliated on another disallowed goal by him - scored later and you knew he wouldn't move away from the crease to celebrate. wanted to celebrate next to the canes' goaltender.

just too much crap on the team for them to compete. outshot 41-17.


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A guy like Ryan Reaves was available this offseason for protection for the kid. But the dumbass GM obviously didn't understand this stuff was going to happen.


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still amazed. bedard scores a great goal, throwing his body forward on the follow-through...then talks to the goaltender who tried to punk him after the 2nd period. the goaltender lifts his stick and points at the scoreboard. the canes challenge and you knew immediately it wouldn't end well. crevier not quick enough on the blue line...goal erased, bedard humiliated on the bench. bedard comes right back and scores and celebrates in the crease. unbelievable..all this, on the worst club in hockey.

reeves on the leafs and canadian/toronto media rips the leafs as being too soft. i suppose a tough guy would help, the hawks need so much more.


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They need tons more so spending $1m on a guy like Reaves is a no brainier to protect your top asset. (Especially when you have wastes of space like Jones and Murphy.) Instead you have guys like Tinordi and Foligno having to step up for the kid. Not their job. Complete lack of foresight by the GM.


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You eventually have to bring in a GM and HC that can teach the young guys how to win, the goofs they have now are just inexpensive placeholder types you bring in during the teardown phase of your re-build process, you then bring in more talented guys when you are ready to win.

Keep waiting for signs that the Hawks are shifting from the teardown phase, but still do not see evidence of that happening, also see no evidence that the franchise has any idea on how to enter the next phase, not a good look for the NHL to have a big market franchise being as non-competitive as the Hawks.


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former d-man richardson is well respected in nhl circles and him and his staff have a young d-corps to work with/mold. save vlasic - korchinski, phillips and crevier don't seem to be absorbing...korchinski makes the same mistakes incessantly. kaiser got into the doghouse and can't get out. jones and especially tinordi have had no renaissance.

i don't blame richardson and staff for the anemic offense. many of these FWDs are brutal, ahl players at best. the prospects are prospects, they aren't working with them.

i give him a pass for now. the fact that the young D is still struggling, is not a good sign. i do believe that some of korchinski's issues revolve around the fact that he still needs to put on 10 lbs of muscle. gets bullied covering behind and in front of the net. his coverage issues on rushes are on richardson and staff. media making a big deal out of that korchinski got benched for half a period the other day for making an ill-advised pinch. just not improving...no one expected progress to be linear, but not stalled.


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The D and F positioning in their own zone is brutal. I blame that on coaching. They play D worse than a lot of ACHA college teams (D3 exempted).


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:23 am 
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Peter Puck wrote:
The D and F positioning in their own zone is brutal. I blame that on coaching. They play D worse than a lot of ACHA college teams (D3 exempted).


Guys can camp out in front of the Hawks net, the D is tissue paper soft, the love dudes that can skate, but you need a balance with a few sandpaper guys and some size upfront to open up space and to dig pucks out of the corners for your skill guys.

Kane and Toews thrived with Bickell and Buff taking up space on the wing.


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Clawmaster wrote:
not a good look for the NHL to have a big market franchise being as non-competitive as the Hawks.

League doesn't give a shit about the performance of teams in relatively inelastic markets; the Leafs, Habs, and Oilers have all had long runs of ineptitude in recent years, to say nothing of the 97-04 Rangers, 02-09 Kings, or the last dark age of the Hawks. It's the poor performance of warm-weather teams that the league can't abide: the NHL's post-2013 revenue sharing plan is to just go to the Coyotes and Panthers and ask "how much do you need"

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Clawmaster wrote:
not a good look for the NHL to have a big market franchise being as non-competitive as the Hawks.

League doesn't give a shit about the performance of teams in relatively inelastic markets; the Leafs, Habs, and Oilers have all had long runs of ineptitude in recent years, to say nothing of the 97-04 Rangers, 02-09 Kings, or the last dark age of the Hawks. It's the poor performance of warm-weather teams that the league can't abide: the NHL's post-2013 revenue sharing plan is to just go to the Coyotes and Panthers and ask "how much do you need"


And they’re taking a long look at Atlanta again :roll:

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Curious Hair wrote:
Clawmaster wrote:
not a good look for the NHL to have a big market franchise being as non-competitive as the Hawks.

League doesn't give a shit about the performance of teams in relatively inelastic markets; the Leafs, Habs, and Oilers have all had long runs of ineptitude in recent years, to say nothing of the 97-04 Rangers, 02-09 Kings, or the last dark age of the Hawks. It's the poor performance of warm-weather teams that the league can't abide: the NHL's post-2013 revenue sharing plan is to just go to the Coyotes and Panthers and ask "how much do you need"


We talked about this before the mysterious Bedard ping pong ball drop.

You sell more jerseys and get better ratings when the big market teams do well, the more eyeballs on your product the better it is for business.

Everyone saw how full the bandwagon was when the Hawks were winning, and how quickly all those people jumped off.


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And they’re taking a long look at Atlanta again :roll:

This time it's going to be in the far northeast suburbs where whites aren't afraid to go, so supposedly it'll work this time.

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Minooka Meatball wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Clawmaster wrote:
not a good look for the NHL to have a big market franchise being as non-competitive as the Hawks.

League doesn't give a shit about the performance of teams in relatively inelastic markets; the Leafs, Habs, and Oilers have all had long runs of ineptitude in recent years, to say nothing of the 97-04 Rangers, 02-09 Kings, or the last dark age of the Hawks. It's the poor performance of warm-weather teams that the league can't abide: the NHL's post-2013 revenue sharing plan is to just go to the Coyotes and Panthers and ask "how much do you need"


And they’re taking a long look at Atlanta again :roll:


Apparently Houston as well...


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Curious Hair wrote:
Clawmaster wrote:
not a good look for the NHL to have a big market franchise being as non-competitive as the Hawks.

League doesn't give a shit about the performance of teams in relatively inelastic markets; the Leafs, Habs, and Oilers have all had long runs of ineptitude in recent years, to say nothing of the 97-04 Rangers, 02-09 Kings, or the last dark age of the Hawks. It's the poor performance of warm-weather teams that the league can't abide: the NHL's post-2013 revenue sharing plan is to just go to the Coyotes and Panthers and ask "how much do you need"


Chicago is considered an "inelastic" market?

That assessment seems criminally stupid.

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Curious Hair wrote:
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not a good look for the NHL to have a big market franchise being as non-competitive as the Hawks.

League doesn't give a shit about the performance of teams in relatively inelastic markets; the Leafs, Habs, and Oilers have all had long runs of ineptitude in recent years, to say nothing of the 97-04 Rangers, 02-09 Kings, or the last dark age of the Hawks. It's the poor performance of warm-weather teams that the league can't abide: the NHL's post-2013 revenue sharing plan is to just go to the Coyotes and Panthers and ask "how much do you need"


Chicago is considered an "inelastic" market?

That assessment seems criminally stupid.

For hockey? Yes. Even through long periods of suckage, the Blackhawks will sell tickets and merch.

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The Hawks need to bring back Dale Tallon as a talent scout, just keep him away from the books.


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Tall Midget wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Clawmaster wrote:
not a good look for the NHL to have a big market franchise being as non-competitive as the Hawks.

League doesn't give a shit about the performance of teams in relatively inelastic markets; the Leafs, Habs, and Oilers have all had long runs of ineptitude in recent years, to say nothing of the 97-04 Rangers, 02-09 Kings, or the last dark age of the Hawks. It's the poor performance of warm-weather teams that the league can't abide: the NHL's post-2013 revenue sharing plan is to just go to the Coyotes and Panthers and ask "how much do you need"


Chicago is considered an "inelastic" market?

That assessment seems criminally stupid.


By NHL standards, it's relatively inelastic at this point. This is the league where a team was so bad that they went bankrupt, were bought by the league, sold, evicted, and sent to a college arena.

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