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Only pink still has a stigma as a "girl" color.

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Only pink still has a stigma as a "girl" color.

Kanye could only do so much

And Kamron

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I think we're better off when we don't assign things to genders for literally no reason. Strong take, I know.
...and I think we are better off when we worry about actual problems and not things that cause no harm and aren't damaging. Strong take, I know.

Again with the implication we can only worry about one issue at a time.


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KDdidit wrote:
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I think we're better off when we don't assign things to genders for literally no reason. Strong take, I know.
...and I think we are better off when we worry about actual problems and not things that cause no harm and aren't damaging. Strong take, I know.

Again with the implication we can only worry about one issue at a time.
When there are plentiful actual things to worry about there is no benefit to worry about, as you admitted, are not harmful and not damaging. Complaining about things like this just adds static to otherwise valid points.

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When there are plentiful actual things to worry about there is no benefit to worry about, as you admitted, are not harmful and not damaging. Complaining about things like this just adds static to otherwise valid points.

Avoiding doing something that has no benefit is worth the zero effort it takes to not do it. I never said it wasn't harmful or damaging, it just wasn't my focus, but as has been mentioned there's a negative stigma to boys wearing pink, so it's not like you can even say there's no effects. Again it's not eliminating an earth shattering societal woe, but since it takes zero effort to not associate pink with girls and there's no logical reason to do it I bet we can take the bold step of not doing something that's pointless.


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as has been mentioned there's a negative stigma to boys wearing pink, so it's not like you can even say there's no effects.


Credit where it's due, the gentleman douchebags of the SEC are trying to erase the stigma:

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or at least adjust it from "you're gay" to "you're a southern fraternity member"

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KDdidit wrote:
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When there are plentiful actual things to worry about there is no benefit to worry about, as you admitted, are not harmful and not damaging. Complaining about things like this just adds static to otherwise valid points.

Avoiding doing something that has no benefit is worth the zero effort it takes to not do it. I never said it wasn't harmful or damaging, it just wasn't my focus, but as has been mentioned there's a negative stigma to boys wearing pink, so it's not like you can even say there's no effects. Again it's not eliminating an earth shattering societal woe, but since it takes zero effort to not associate pink with girls and there's no logical reason to do it I bet we can take the bold step of not doing something that's pointless.

Thank God your avatar isn't a .gif of a ditzy broad with pink hair walking into a wall, otherwise that post would be pretty difficult to take seriously.

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When there are plentiful actual things to worry about there is no benefit to worry about, as you admitted, are not harmful and not damaging. Complaining about things like this just adds static to otherwise valid points.

Avoiding doing something that has no benefit is worth the zero effort it takes to not do it. I never said it wasn't harmful or damaging, it just wasn't my focus, but as has been mentioned there's a negative stigma to boys wearing pink, so it's not like you can even say there's no effects. Again it's not eliminating an earth shattering societal woe, but since it takes zero effort to not associate pink with girls and there's no logical reason to do it I bet we can take the bold step of not doing something that's pointless.

Thank God your avatar isn't a .gif of a ditzy broad with pink hair walking into a wall, otherwise that post would be pretty difficult to take seriously.


I was manly enough to watch Jem and the Holograms tyvm. You don't know what Jem was going through at the time so for you to assume she's a ditzy broad says a lot


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KDdidit wrote:
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When there are plentiful actual things to worry about there is no benefit to worry about, as you admitted, are not harmful and not damaging. Complaining about things like this just adds static to otherwise valid points.

Avoiding doing something that has no benefit is worth the zero effort it takes to not do it. I never said it wasn't harmful or damaging, it just wasn't my focus, but as has been mentioned there's a negative stigma to boys wearing pink, so it's not like you can even say there's no effects. Again it's not eliminating an earth shattering societal woe, but since it takes zero effort to not associate pink with girls and there's no logical reason to do it I bet we can take the bold step of not doing something that's pointless.
So me painting my boys room blue was harmful and/or damaging? :lol:

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Maybe if there was lead in the paint. Light blue is a better color for a room than pink. It's more calming.

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I do believe, KD, that you are projecting your own perception of female inferiority in the now legendary "color debate." One would only care about color attributions if they thought that one of the colors or genders was somehow inferior. If we changed it so that girls were green and boys were brown, would you make the same argument? Also, do you boycott breast cancer awareness rallies?

Also, I absolutely can't tell if a 1-month-old child is a boy or a girl. Hell, my one-year-old daughter could easily be mistaken for a boy if we didn't dress her like a girl. And, yes, I do want people to know she's a girl. Sorry if I'm setting her up for a life of inferiority.

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I do believe, KD, that you are projecting your own perception of female inferiority in the now legendary "color debate." One would only care about color attributions if they thought that one of the colors or genders was somehow inferior. If we changed it so that girls were green and boys were brown, would you make the same argument? Also, do you boycott breast cancer awareness rallies?

Also, I absolutely can't tell if a 1-month-old child is a boy or a girl. Hell, my one-year-old daughter could easily be mistaken for a boy if we didn't dress her like a girl. And, yes, I do want people to know she's a girl. Sorry if I'm setting her up for a life of inferiority.


Like a girl??????? What the hell does that mean? Haven't any of you Neanderthals read Free To Be... You And Me?

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Like a girl??????? What the hell does that mean? Haven't any of you Neanderthals read Free To Be... You And Me?


I like to think I'm pretty progressive on this issue, thank you very much. Hell, she can even have female friends who play softball as long as they don't take pictures together.

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as has been mentioned there's a negative stigma to boys wearing pink, so it's not like you can even say there's no effects.


Credit where it's due, the gentleman douchebags of the SEC are trying to erase the stigma:

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or at least adjust it from "you're gay" to "you're a southern fraternity member"


Weird. I never pegged Kirkwood as a bowtie kind of guy.

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I do believe, KD, that you are projecting your own perception of female inferiority in the now legendary "color debate." One would only care about color attributions if they thought that one of the colors or genders was somehow inferior. If we changed it so that girls were green and boys were brown, would you make the same argument? Also, do you boycott breast cancer awareness rallies?

Also, I absolutely can't tell if a 1-month-old child is a boy or a girl. Hell, my one-year-old daughter could easily be mistaken for a boy if we didn't dress her like a girl. And, yes, I do want people to know she's a girl. Sorry if I'm setting her up for a life of inferiority.


It's like there's no need to randomly apply colors to genders or something!


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KDdidit wrote:
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I do believe, KD, that you are projecting your own perception of female inferiority in the now legendary "color debate." One would only care about color attributions if they thought that one of the colors or genders was somehow inferior. If we changed it so that girls were green and boys were brown, would you make the same argument? Also, do you boycott breast cancer awareness rallies?

Also, I absolutely can't tell if a 1-month-old child is a boy or a girl. Hell, my one-year-old daughter could easily be mistaken for a boy if we didn't dress her like a girl. And, yes, I do want people to know she's a girl. Sorry if I'm setting her up for a life of inferiority.


It's like there's no need to randomly apply colors to genders or something!


Do you believe that men and women should be interchangeable and that we should have no gender identity? I'm honestly asking.

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I wore pink a few weeks ago and I believe I am still a man.

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I wear a pink Wrigley Field shirt sometimes, but it's more of a salmon color, or perhaps melon.

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KDdidit wrote:
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I do believe, KD, that you are projecting your own perception of female inferiority in the now legendary "color debate." One would only care about color attributions if they thought that one of the colors or genders was somehow inferior. If we changed it so that girls were green and boys were brown, would you make the same argument? Also, do you boycott breast cancer awareness rallies?

Also, I absolutely can't tell if a 1-month-old child is a boy or a girl. Hell, my one-year-old daughter could easily be mistaken for a boy if we didn't dress her like a girl. And, yes, I do want people to know she's a girl. Sorry if I'm setting her up for a life of inferiority.


It's like there's no need to randomly apply colors to genders or something!


Do you believe that men and women should be interchangeable and that we should have no gender identity? I'm honestly asking.


Until such a time as the idea of "gender identity" doesn't disproportionately favor men, I'm not going to lose sleep if things skew interchangeably. Not having a gender identity based on a random color selection doesn't seem a good idea though.


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I wore pink a few weeks ago and I believe I am still a man.

I wear pink all the time, have long hair, shave my pits, and as recently as last week had my toenails painted. Anyone that's ever met me would never confuse me for a woman though :lol:


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I wore pink a few weeks ago and I believe I am still a man.

I wear pink all the time, have long hair, shave my pits, and as recently as last week had my toenails painted. Anyone that's ever met me would never confuse me for a woman though :lol:

but we might confuse you as this guy
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As board members may know, I like Matt as a person and you can go ahead and shit on me for what I have to say, but I'm not going to just windsock because everyone hates him.

Yes, Patrick Kane has been exonerated from rape. No one questions that. It's horribly unfortunate that his accuser did what she did.

That said, I think he has every right to raise this. A simple search of Patrick Kane Drunk will give you a glimpse of what happens when he gets some alcohol in him. Still questions about him choking a girl in Madison. People in Buffalo who say he comes to bars with his entourage looking for women.

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As board members may know, I like Matt as a person and you can go ahead and shit on me for what I have to say, but I'm not going to just windsock because everyone hates him.

Yes, Patrick Kane has been exonerated from rape. No one questions that. It's horribly unfortunate that his accuser did what she did.

That said, I think he has every right to raise this. A simple search of Patrick Kane Drunk will give you a glimpse of what happens when he gets some alcohol in him. Still questions about him choking a girl in Madison. People in Buffalo who say he comes to bars with his entourage looking for women.

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Irrelevant. The question is whether he raped someone.

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He did not rape the woman. We all know that now. Its not a question.

The problem is that he has become Peter and we aren't sure he is crying wolf because there is actually a wolf. That invites people like DiCaro and McClure. Its Kane's own fault that he attracted this.

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Here Hoffy. I'm sure your piece of shit friend will have plenty to say about this statement from Rocky Wirtz. He can go fuck himself .

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You missed my point.

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As board members may know, I like Matt as a person and you can go ahead and shit on me for what I have to say, but I'm not going to just windsock because everyone hates him.

Yes, Patrick Kane has been exonerated from rape. No one questions that. It's horribly unfortunate that his accuser did what she did.

That said, I think he has every right to raise this. A simple search of Patrick Kane Drunk will give you a glimpse of what happens when he gets some alcohol in him. Still questions about him choking a girl in Madison. People in Buffalo who say he comes to bars with his entourage looking for women.

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What am I missing? He's drinking with 2 girls and all are smiling and appear to be having a good time. I bet you've taken quite a few pictures with girls while drinking and smiling.

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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
As board members may know, I like Matt as a person and you can go ahead and shit on me for what I have to say, but I'm not going to just windsock because everyone hates him.

Yes, Patrick Kane has been exonerated from rape. No one questions that. It's horribly unfortunate that his accuser did what she did.

That said, I think he has every right to raise this. A simple search of Patrick Kane Drunk will give you a glimpse of what happens when he gets some alcohol in him. Still questions about him choking a girl in Madison. People in Buffalo who say he comes to bars with his entourage looking for women.

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What am I missing? He's drinking with 2 girls and all are smiling and appear to be having a good time. I bet you've taken quite a few pictures with girls while drinking and smiling.

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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
As board members may know, I like Matt as a person and you can go ahead and shit on me for what I have to say, but I'm not going to just windsock because everyone hates him.

Yes, Patrick Kane has been exonerated from rape. No one questions that. It's horribly unfortunate that his accuser did what she did.

That said, I think he has every right to raise this. A simple search of Patrick Kane Drunk will give you a glimpse of what happens when he gets some alcohol in him. Still questions about him choking a girl in Madison. People in Buffalo who say he comes to bars with his entourage looking for women.


What exactly is he raising? If he wants to argue Kane is a douche I don't think you'll get much resistance from a lot of people. If he wants to argue that Kane is a rapist, society has some sort of rape culture issue, and I don't even know what about the Blackhawks then yeah he's going to be the one that looks like the goof.

I used to enjoy the hell out of his posts here. Now people post these articles and I think what the fuck is this shit? It's like it's not the same person. He comes across as a too cool for the room, know it all, self important jerk, and the complete opposite of what he used to be. I used to love his hockey posts, now I wonder why he even watches what he claims to hate so much.


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An athlete coming to a bar with an entourage looking for women....yeah, like that ever happens!!!!!!!!

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