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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:01 am 
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My guy says 3b could have caught and tagged the kid without the throw. Not sure. That's a tough one though.


the kids will be scarred for life now.

His kid had a great last game, but yea, he's gonna take this one with him.


Id say when its a run that can eliminate you from post season, you just run him back to third.

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what was the pitcher doing, eating popcorn?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:51 am 
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what was the pitcher doing, eating popcorn?

Its his kid so I avoided that topic.


He gave up a lead in the last game but then hit a walk off double to win it so all was good.

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I hadn't seen a high school game since I was in high school in the late 80s. I was pretty surprised how good these kids are - big, strong, picture perfect strokes and deliveries.

Being groomed from age six to be a baseball star does produce some really good players. I doubt the wear and tear on arms is a good thing though.

Ran into a Mount Carmel baseball player from the early 90s. They had a pretty good team then, ranked between 6-10 in state. Shame they didn't go downstate, I said. So close. He said, "Ah, we were happy. I mean, I was a football player who liked to play a little baseball. Today's kids are strictly baseball players. A few play football, but they've been raised to get a B+ average and turn double plays since they were eight years old. It's all they know, and it's kind of weird."

He's a high school principal now at a Catholic school in Cincinnati.


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Its quite simple when he explains it. the starting pitcher is the only player that matters. you can ignore eveyone else.



I think if you actually end up attending some of these high school games it may give you a better understanding of just how much more the starting pitchers affect the game than every other player combined.

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the most important but not more important than all the others combined. Unless you throw Chris Sale against a high school team.


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but they've been raised to get a B+ average


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Most private high schools are really easy. Be respectful and you'll get at least C's. Do your work and have half a brain and you're guaranteed a B/B+.

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Baseball is very complicated and difficult to understand. You better bring Jorr with you so he can explain everything to you.


Its quite simple when he explains it. the starting pitcher is the only player that matters. you can ignore eveyone else.



I think if you actually end up attending some of these high school games it may give you a better understanding of just how much more the starting pitchers affect the game than every other player combined.

Partially true, but in the playoffs, fundamentals assume just as much importance. For many teams, just a few hitters on the opposing team making contact can spell doom because of fielding and throwing errors, not hitting cutoff men, and an inability to throw out runners stealing bases. What's more, some teams can take advantage of a pitcher's wildness (i.e., Providence last year). The fundamentally sound teams can overcome a stud on the mound.

The best player on the best teams isn't always the pitcher, as Bernstein often claims.

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The best player on the best teams isn't always the pitcher, as Bernstein often claims.


Maybe A pitcher but not THE pitcher. One guy doesn't pitch evey game.


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The best player on the best teams isn't always the pitcher, as Bernstein often claims.


Maybe A pitcher but not THE pitcher. One guy doesn't pitch evey game.

Carmel and Providence have a bunch of guys playing in college and the minors who never pitched in high school.....I think kids are specializing even more now. And both teams have had some good pitchers who (from what I have heard; I certainly can't tell) weren't good enough to play a position.

But yeah, some of those kids are studs who would dominate at any position. Amazing. As the world's worst athlete, I just don't get it.

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St. Laurence advances.....good for them.

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Warren was missing one of its best bats, No. 3 hitter Matt Burch, who was unavailable due to a commitment with his summer team.

I have never in my life seen this before. You miss the Sectional championship of your Senior year to play in one of 15 plus summer tournaments you go to every year? Also by playing in the summer tourney you forfeit the right to continue playing even if your team had won.

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2016 ... lecomments

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St. Laurence advances.....good for them.


They got shut down by Plainfield North tonight.

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Warren was missing one of its best bats, No. 3 hitter Matt Burch, who was unavailable due to a commitment with his summer team.

I have never in my life seen this before. You miss the Sectional championship of your Senior year to play in one of 15 plus summer tournaments you go to every year? Also by playing in the summer tourney you forfeit the right to continue playing even if your team had won.

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2016 ... lecomments


+1

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That is so wild that you just brought that up. That is my cousin. His H.S. coach has been giving him a hard time his whole 4 years because Matt chose playing in all star summer leagues over the high school team. This current summer team was set up by Arkansas, which is where he will be playing next year. He was not on best of terms with his coach and didn't enjoy his season despite their winning


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St. Laurence advances.....good for them.


Viking pride.

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St. Laurence advances.....good for them.


They got shut down by Plainfield North tonight.


Cancel Viking pride.

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That is so wild that you just brought that up. That is my cousin. His H.S. coach has been giving him a hard time his whole 4 years because Matt chose playing in all star summer leagues over the high school team. This current summer team was set up by Arkansas, which is where he will be playing next year. He was not on best of terms with his coach and didn't enjoy his season despite their winning


Doesnt he have friends on his high school baseball team?

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You play for your friends, your school and yourself before you play for a coach...unless he is Joe Maddon, then everyone plays for him.

I'd never let my friend live that one down.

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You play for your friends, your school and yourself before you play for a coach...unless he is Joe Maddon, then everyone plays for him.

I'd never let my friend live that one down.


It is a tough call for an 18 year old. This team that he will play for will be playing in all of the showcase tournaments throughout the country and is trying to gain exposure to all of the scouts.
The ones that will suffer will be his teammates that didn't have that opportunity to play at the next level. I am sure there are some teammates feeling a little sour of his decision. He may look back on this with regret.


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It is a tough call for an 18 year old. This team that he will play for will be playing in all of the showcase tournaments throughout the country and is trying to gain exposure to all of the scouts.
The ones that will suffer will be his teammates that didn't have that opportunity to play at the next level. I am sure there are some teammates feeling a little sour of his decision. He may look back on this with regret.


Missing one travel ball tournament does absolutely nothing in the long term. The kid is signed already for next year. He will be playing in the SEC which has scouts at every single game.

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who knows the situation exactly. maybe coach is a cocksucker. comes a time you say enough is enough.

either that or the kid is a pussy. who knows?


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Hope Mundelein wins it this year in 4A.

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I find everything about that story very difficult to believe.


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who knows the situation exactly. maybe coach is a cocksucker. comes a time you say enough is enough.

either that or the kid is a pussy. who knows?

I guarantee you he isnt a pussy.


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Warren was missing one of its best bats, No. 3 hitter Matt Burch, who was unavailable due to a commitment with his summer team.

I have never in my life seen this before. You miss the Sectional championship of your Senior year to play in one of 15 plus summer tournaments you go to every year? Also by playing in the summer tourney you forfeit the right to continue playing even if your team had won.

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2016 ... lecomments

He's done at Arkansas. Not sure how he ended up there in the first place. Yet another Illinois kick back looking for a junior college. Most of these guys should start out at JC's and then move on from there but that doesn't look as cool on your PBR profile page.


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Warren was missing one of its best bats, No. 3 hitter Matt Burch, who was unavailable due to a commitment with his summer team.

I have never in my life seen this before. You miss the Sectional championship of your Senior year to play in one of 15 plus summer tournaments you go to every year? Also by playing in the summer tourney you forfeit the right to continue playing even if your team had won.

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2016 ... lecomments

He's done at Arkansas. Not sure how he ended up there in the first place. Yet another Illinois kick back looking for a junior college. Most of these guys should start out at JC's and then move on from there but that doesn't look as cool on your PBR profile page.


Arkansas also cut ties with an Oak Lawn pitcher this past December before his HS Senior season started. I think he is going to a Juco now

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He's a non-qualifier which is actually good for him. He had no business going there either.


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Keyser Soze wrote:
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Warren was missing one of its best bats, No. 3 hitter Matt Burch, who was unavailable due to a commitment with his summer team.

I have never in my life seen this before. You miss the Sectional championship of your Senior year to play in one of 15 plus summer tournaments you go to every year? Also by playing in the summer tourney you forfeit the right to continue playing even if your team had won.

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2016 ... lecomments

He's done at Arkansas. Not sure how he ended up there in the first place. Yet another Illinois kick back looking for a junior college. Most of these guys should start out at JC's and then move on from there but that doesn't look as cool on your PBR profile page.


What they should be doing is finding a college they want to attend irrespective of baseball.

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They should find a school that fits academically and their talent level on the baseball field. If a school wants to give you money to play baseball you obviously should take it but should be a school where they can stay for four years and develop as a baseball player instead of going to a big name school for a year and losing a year of development.


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