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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:54 am 
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In a roundabout way, I deal with bitcoin every day.

As such, I've attended internal and external seminars, done my own research, and chatted with experts from both the financial and criminal brain trusts... and I still cannot understand how the fuck it works. I'm either too dumb to understand or the whole damn thing is just a complete house of cards that operates completely on trust.

Dork, all currencies especially the dollar are a house of cards that operates completely on trust.
But jorrbucks sounds riskier than a roofie colada at beardowns garden party.


They're not all backed by the U.S. government, though. Dork.


That's the point. They're immune from government manipulation and there are strict controls (at least with Bitcoin) that prevent inflation.


I understand the positives. There are definitely downfalls to that too. It's uncharted territory and it's certainly risky. It's all built into the price. I'm not saying it's good or bad... there are just a lot of unknowns. If you make millions, you owe me a porterhouse.


I think the biggest uncertainty was possible government shutdowns of these currencies. It was a big deal when Putin blessed Ethereum and Japan blessed Bitcoin.

Of course there are risks. Some will certainly die off. But long term, cryptocurrencies are a strong play.


Everyone will be surprised that I really cannot comprehend how they work or where they gain value. I was told by a friend in government that while dealing in them is legal, it is going to get you red flagged. I'm not sure if he meant investing or just using them as currency.

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Still, send me out something and I'll look at it.

My money would mush the deal.

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My two cents. If you're really worry about Fiat currencies, then your best alternative bets are income producing hard assets like real estate or precious metals like gold. If/when the global financial system free falls, you want something tangible.

My problem with crypto currencies is all the fraud and cyber theft that goes along with storing them.

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My two cents. If you're really worry about Fiat currencies, then your best alternative bets are income producing hard assets like real estate or precious metals like gold. If/when the global financial system free falls, you want something tangible.

My problem with crypto currencies is all the fraud and cyber theft that goes along with storing them.



The Mt. Gox thing was a disaster but it only slowed Bitcoin down for a minute.

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My two cents. If you're really worry about Fiat currencies, then your best alternative bets are income producing hard assets like real estate or precious metals like gold. If/when the global financial system free falls, you want something tangible.

My problem with crypto currencies is all the fraud and cyber theft that goes along with storing them.



The Mt. Gox thing was a disaster but it only slowed Bitcoin down for a minute.


Part of it is the unknown. I guess I have a preference for really smart financial guys manipulating the money system (Fed, et al) vs. really smart computer guys (hackers and their ilk) manipulating the crypto system. I still love how these guys mine the bitcoins. Give me the Wall Street Banker in a fancy suit!

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What's the minimum investment? hard to see them beating raw bitcoin investment over the next 3 to 5 years, but smart to ride the blockchain wave.

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I was wondering if the offering is a Reg D, meaning only for accredited investors? I have to assume it is.

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Wow,I have something in common with Leash and GD. Way before Bitcoin came out,I was reading articles on it. I have about 40 years of various experience in the world of data processing and I couldn't make heads or tails out of it. I'll stick to old comicbooks for 200,Alex.

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 Post subject: Re: Cryptocurrency Fund
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Well none of them are actually currencies. Try claiming to the IRS that your 100 bitcoins aren't an investment and watch them laugh in your face. The only time they are actually used as currency is for international money laundering and by drug dealers, everyone else is just sitting on their stash waiting for the price to go up. I dont see many people hoarding euro's or dollars in a vault hoping that one day the American dollar will grow in value exponentially and they can resell it. Doesn't seem like much of a "currency" to me, and if its not a currency I dont see what the point of it is and how its worth anything.

But whatever, its so easy to buy this shit yourself why on earth would you get into a fund run a bunch of American investors? Just go online and buy some ETH/BTC/DASH whatever and sit on it. And if you really want to make the most of it go on 4chan and Reddit and just follow along with the pump-and-dump schemes on altcoins yourself, you dont need some fund manager's expertise to gauge what's going to happen there.

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Well none of them are actually currencies. Try claiming to the IRS that your 100 bitcoins aren't an investment and watch them laugh in your face. The only time they are actually used as currency is for international money laundering and by drug dealers, everyone else is just sitting on their stash waiting for the price to go up. I dont see many people hoarding euro's or dollars in a vault hoping that one day the American dollar will grow in value exponentially and they can resell it. Doesn't seem like much of a "currency" to me, and if its not a currency I dont see what the point of it is and how its worth anything.

But whatever, its so easy to buy this shit yourself why on earth would you get into a fund run a bunch of American investors? Just go online and buy some ETH/BTC/DASH whatever and sit on it. And if you really want to make the most of it go on 4chan and Reddit and just follow along with the pump-and-dump schemes on altcoins yourself, you dont need some fund manager's expertise to gauge what's going to happen there.


Did you really cite an IRS viewpoint? It goes without saying that a glom operation like the IRS would see anything that remotely smells like income as income. But these are all currencies and I think you'll find that some of them gain wide acceptance in the coming years.

Also, it's not so easy to buy some of these currencies beyond the major ones that you mention.

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I have no interest in crypto currencies. Thanks though.

But dude they're immune to inflation.
And heavy financial guys are into it.
I mean these guys are heavies.
Thats why they need investors from a message board.



I think most people here are already aware of how fuckin' dumb you are without you specifically broadcasting it.


Don't hold back now boys... :shock:

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Wilkinson's got a bite on a new one. Petramco Corp. Out of, hu, Springfield, I think. They're about to introduce some sort of robot butcher.

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I have no interest in crypto currencies. Thanks though.

But dude they're immune to inflation.
And heavy financial guys are into it.
I mean these guys are heavies.
Thats why they need investors from a message board.



I think most people here are already aware of how fuckin' dumb you are without you specifically broadcasting it.


Don't hold back now boys... :shock:

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The problem with cryptocurrency is that countries are likely to ban it outright at some point. You'll probably make a ton of money before they need to do that though. It just causes too many problems and takes away a lot of power/regulation by the government that has proven pretty vital to a modern society.

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Well none of them are actually currencies. Try claiming to the IRS that your 100 bitcoins aren't an investment and watch them laugh in your face. The only time they are actually used as currency is for international money laundering and by drug dealers, everyone else is just sitting on their stash waiting for the price to go up. I dont see many people hoarding euro's or dollars in a vault hoping that one day the American dollar will grow in value exponentially and they can resell it. Doesn't seem like much of a "currency" to me, and if its not a currency I dont see what the point of it is and how its worth anything.

But whatever, its so easy to buy this shit yourself why on earth would you get into a fund run a bunch of American investors? Just go online and buy some ETH/BTC/DASH whatever and sit on it. And if you really want to make the most of it go on 4chan and Reddit and just follow along with the pump-and-dump schemes on altcoins yourself, you dont need some fund manager's expertise to gauge what's going to happen there.


Did you really cite an IRS viewpoint? It goes without saying that a glom operation like the IRS would see anything that remotely smells like income as income. But these are all currencies and I think you'll find that some of them gain wide acceptance in the coming years.

Also, it's not so easy to buy some of these currencies beyond the major ones that you mention.


My guy was talking about using it. He won't be my guy if he uses it exclusively. Don't need to scream "look at me".

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My initial reaction is you were putting a group together to buy the horse, Cryptocurrency, so you could collect stud fees. Then it dawned on me that the horse's name was Cryptoclearance. My bad.

If you do pool money to buy a horse, please start a new thread. Thanks in advance.


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leashyourkids wrote:
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In a roundabout way, I deal with bitcoin every day.

As such, I've attended internal and external seminars, done my own research, and chatted with experts from both the financial and criminal brain trusts... and I still cannot understand how the fuck it works. I'm either too dumb to understand or the whole damn thing is just a complete house of cards that operates completely on trust.

Dork, all currencies especially the dollar are a house of cards that operates completely on trust.
But jorrbucks sounds riskier than a roofie colada at beardowns garden party.


They're not all backed by the U.S. government, though. Dork.

Doofus... the government can't back all the greenbacks if they were to get them all back, Jack.
They're still just notes. Notes backed by.... ?? What?
Just trust really. Trust we really don't have in our government.


I'm aware. Don't make me go all LTG and tell you I have an undergraduate degree in Economics.



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My initial reaction is you were putting a group together to buy the horse, Cryptocurrency, so you could collect stud fees. Then it dawned on me that the horse's name was Cryptoclearance. My bad.

If you do pool money to buy a horse, please start a new thread. Thanks in advance.


:lol: I'd totally be down for buying a horse. A group of message board friends at Barn To Wire put together a syndicate to buy some horses.

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My initial reaction is you were putting a group together to buy the horse, Cryptocurrency, so you could collect stud fees. Then it dawned on me that the horse's name was Cryptoclearance. My bad.

If you do pool money to buy a horse, please start a new thread. Thanks in advance.


:lol: I'd totally be down for buying a horse. A group of message board friends at Barn To Wire put together a syndicate to buy some horses.

How much is a horse?

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My initial reaction is you were putting a group together to buy the horse, Cryptocurrency, so you could collect stud fees. Then it dawned on me that the horse's name was Cryptoclearance. My bad.

If you do pool money to buy a horse, please start a new thread. Thanks in advance.


:lol: I'd totally be down for buying a horse. A group of message board friends at Barn To Wire put together a syndicate to buy some horses.

How much is a horse?


It could be as much or as little as you want. It would probably be better to buy a harness horse just because they race so much more often. I wouldn't look at it as a money making venture as Illinois racing is on death's door. But we could probably find something we could have fun and break even with for about 5 grand.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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My initial reaction is you were putting a group together to buy the horse, Cryptocurrency, so you could collect stud fees. Then it dawned on me that the horse's name was Cryptoclearance. My bad.

If you do pool money to buy a horse, please start a new thread. Thanks in advance.


:lol: I'd totally be down for buying a horse. A group of message board friends at Barn To Wire put together a syndicate to buy some horses.

How much is a horse?


It could be as much or as little as you want. It would probably be better to buy a harness horse just because they race so much more often. I wouldn't look at it as a money making venture as Illinois racing is on death's door. But we could probably find something we could have fun and break even with for about 5 grand.

Only 5 grand? I thought they were six figures. Even I can come up with a grand. Let's buy a fucking horse, man.

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Can we name it? RIDES JUST FINE.

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Can we name it? RIDES JUST FINE.

I was gonna say we can start a thread to come up with a name but now that is unnecessary.

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Can we name it? RIDES JUST FINE.

:lol:

How about Blackwater Indian?

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:lol:

How about Blackwater Indian?

We need to buy two horses now.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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My initial reaction is you were putting a group together to buy the horse, Cryptocurrency, so you could collect stud fees. Then it dawned on me that the horse's name was Cryptoclearance. My bad.

If you do pool money to buy a horse, please start a new thread. Thanks in advance.


:lol: I'd totally be down for buying a horse. A group of message board friends at Barn To Wire put together a syndicate to buy some horses.

How much is a horse?


It could be as much or as little as you want. It would probably be better to buy a harness horse just because they race so much more often. I wouldn't look at it as a money making venture as Illinois racing is on death's door. But we could probably find something we could have fun and break even with for about 5 grand.

Only 5 grand? I thought they were six figures. Even I can come up with a grand. Let's buy a fucking horse, man.

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:lol:

How about Blackwater Indian?

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