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 Post subject: Smashed Burgers
PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:55 pm 
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Does anyone really prefer their burger smashed on a hot griddle, well done, with that crispy crusty crap around the edges?

Steak and Shake, Culver's, other similar rural fast food joints...I kinda get it. Trendy, hipster burger bars? Not so much.

I ask because I ate at DMK Burger Bar yesterday. Nice concept, great drinks, excellent fries, sauces and toppings top notch. Then you get this well-done smashed burger pattie...wtf. I like my burger juicy, rare or medium rare. I definitely don't want a Steak n Shake burger.

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 Post subject: Re: Smashed Burgers
PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:59 pm 
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Why would you want to eat ground beef rare?

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 Post subject: Re: Smashed Burgers
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Why would you want to eat ground beef rare?


Because it's delicious.

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 Post subject: Re: Smashed Burgers
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As an establishment I understand the appeal. No burgers sent back because they weren't cooked properly. Uniform product.

But that's for the diners and fast food joints.

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Why would you want to eat ground beef rare?

Odd question. It’s like asking why one would want to eat pizza instead of cardboard.

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Burgers are different than steaks, which are cooked medium rare to medium ONLY to preserve tenderness. Burgers should be well-done with a nice exterior crust. Browned meat is more flavorful than red meat. Burgers can (and should be) be tender even cooked well-done.

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 Post subject: Re: Smashed Burgers
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Burgers are different than steaks, which are cooked medium rare to medium ONLY to preserve tenderness. Burgers should be well-done with a nice exterior crust. Browned meat is more flavorful than red meat. Burgers can (and should be) be tender even cooked well-done.

This is a truly terrible opinion. It’s not even really an opinion. It’s a fact that well done burgers have less flavor and are not as tender as properly cooked burgers.

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Does anyone really prefer their burger smashed on a hot griddle, well done, with that crispy crusty crap around the edges?

Steak and Shake, Culver's, other similar rural fast food joints...I kinda get it. Trendy, hipster burger bars? Not so much.

I ask because I ate at DMK Burger Bar yesterday. Nice concept, great drinks, excellent fries, sauces and toppings top notch. Then you get this well-done smashed burger pattie...wtf. I like my burger juicy, rare or medium rare. I definitely don't want a Steak n Shake burger.


RHR double with cheese is my favorite burger in Chicago and it's smashed.

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 Post subject: Re: Smashed Burgers
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Jaw Breaker wrote:
Burgers are different than steaks, which are cooked medium rare to medium ONLY to preserve tenderness. Burgers should be well-done with a nice exterior crust. Browned meat is more flavorful than red meat. Burgers can (and should be) be tender even cooked well-done.


Balderdash.

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 Post subject: Re: Smashed Burgers
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Jaw Breaker wrote:
Burgers are different than steaks, which are cooked medium rare to medium ONLY to preserve tenderness. Burgers should be well-done with a nice exterior crust. Browned meat is more flavorful than red meat. Burgers can (and should be) be tender even cooked well-done.

Medium is the very perfect temp for a gourmet burger.

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If you want the top one more than the bottom one, your opinion on anything is worth less than nothing.

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If you want the top one more than the bottom one, your opinion on anything is worth less than nothing.

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Neither looks good but the top is guaranteed to be better.

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If you want the top one more than the bottom one, your opinion on anything is worth less than nothing.

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The one on top might actually taste like something other than super-heated, re-fried grease and crisplily-burned flat iron scorchings.

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Burgers for me are kinda like bacon. Sometimes I want the bacon damn near burnt, sometimes I want it floppy and greasy. There's 2 different tastes with burgers that, depending on my mood, can be great.

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FukNuggitt wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
If you want the top one more than the bottom one, your opinion on anything is worth less than nothing.

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The one on top might actually taste like something other than super-heated, re-fried grease and crisplily-burned flat iron scorchings.


Eat a FUCKING steak, then your penis.

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Eat a FUCKING steak, then your penis.

Is that a different preparation, similar to DRY AGED?

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SpiralStairs wrote:
If you want the top one more than the bottom one, your opinion on anything is worth less than nothing.

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Neither looks good but the top is guaranteed to be better.


Take one bite of that top burger and all the toppings slide out the back and by the end you're lucky if you have a bun left.

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FukNuggitt wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Eat a FUCKING steak, then your penis.

Is that a different preparation, similar to DRY AGED?


Dry age your ass in a closed garage with a charcoal grill or six.

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SpiralStairs wrote:
FukNuggitt wrote:
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Eat a FUCKING steak, then your penis.

Is that a different preparation, similar to DRY AGED?

Dry age your ass in a closed garage with a charcoal grill or six.

I might agree to do that if you agree to take a comedy class. Your shit is just not funny.

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Who is joking?

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SpiralStairs wrote:
If you want the top one more than the bottom one, your opinion on anything is worth less than nothing.

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Neither looks good but the top is guaranteed to be better.


Take one bite of that top burger and all the toppings slide out the back and by the end you're lucky if you have a bun left.

That’s part of the fun

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FavreFan wrote:
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If you want the top one more than the bottom one, your opinion on anything is worth less than nothing.

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Neither looks good but the top is guaranteed to be better.


Take one bite of that top burger and all the toppings slide out the back and by the end you're lucky if you have a bun left.

He's right about that.

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 Post subject: Re: Smashed Burgers
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Burgers for me are kinda like bacon. Sometimes I want the bacon damn near burnt, sometimes I want it floppy and greasy. There's 2 different tastes with burgers that, depending on my mood, can be great.


Yeah, there are places that specialize in one type or the other( pub or griddle,) and there are good and bad versions of both. The only place off the top of my head that does both is Edzo's, and their pub burger is just bad.

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First off, I want Sam's opinion.

Mine is that the cheaper the burger, the thinner/smashed the patties should be.

I grew up with Hackney's on Harms before the burger size and quality started slipping in the 90s. That's the top style. It's also the appropriate style for a Merkt's style burger like Paradise Pup or Poochie's. I want these burgers medium rare, as I want the juiciness interacting with the cheese and onions.

But chain burgers should follow the bottom style, and be cooked closer to medium-well than medium-rare.

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I agree with Chetcoat. There's a time and a place for both. But I think Culver's burgers are a little expensive for what they are. I don't know, I haven't ordered actual food from a Culver's in about three years.

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Both are way over-cooked, what's the point of eating dried out, over-cooked hockey pucks. That's like going to a sushi place and ordering tempura. Rare should be cool purple in the middle. Bottom bun a murder scene of gooey fake blood infused bread. Raw onion for sure, maybe mustard, maybe a tomato slice. Fuck lettuce. Guac burgers are awesome. No need for any other condiment on a guacamole burger other than guac. People put too much shit on / in their food nowadays. How can you enjoy a burger after biting through 7 layers of salad/bacon/cheese fries/onion rings/egg. I blame Starbuck's and their frou-frou drink menu normalizing unappetizing complexity in food-stuffs.


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If you want steak eat steak. Burger beef is ground for a reason.

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Tomato on a burger? No, those are just mealy and slimy at the same time.

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Just add a vat of mayo to keep your smashed thing juicy


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There's a place for both.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/c ... story.html

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