The article you linked says it tastes like butt, due to no naturally occurring animal fats.

I'm not sure I could ever eat lab grown meat. Sorry to disappoint.

Regarding pop, I've been able to reduce my intake to no more than a max of 20 oz a day, and since I don't drink it every day now, I'm probably averaging 8-16oz per day. Maybe less. A couple years ago I was buying 3-4 12 packs and they lasted me two weeks, plus fast food pop.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Yup. Barely made it out alive.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

If someone brings in donuts to work, I'll have a couple with coffee, if there are some left at noon, a couple more, then clean up any leftovers late afternoon. Seven donuts a day is stupid, but there's some kind of trigger from my Grandmother saying "Clean it up, no leftovers" , like a Depression-era mentality. The other guys just walk by the box after one donut.

THIS.
Stop drinking soda.
Avoid Fries and Chips.

Meat is not the problem.

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people aren't just avoiding meat for health reasons though.

Probably eating more meat as I try to stay away from carbs when I can. I have been trying to shed some weight but not much luck. Lifting a lot lately. I’m 6’1 260 right now. Donated blood yesterday and my resting pulse was 58 and blood pressure was 114/82. I know I need to shed the weight but I’m feeling as good as I have in years. Just need to cut back on portions I guess.

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I've increased mine. In fact, all I eat now is beef, salt, and water. My digestion is great. Added bonuses- my bloodlust has never been higher. Vote Trump! And I get so hard now that Miss Pis screams for mercy when I haven't even gotten warmed up. I'm ready to take on Cathy Newman and Regular Reader in the Panthathlon at the same time.

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I've cut way back on fried food, snacks and meat.

Like Rick, I had gotten up to two liters of Coke a day. It's a habit I didn't have before I went away to school in Atlanta. Unfortunately pop was so ridiculously cheap (think 15-20 cents a can in the mid 80s) and dorm water was so disgusting it became my drink of choice. When I came home I broke the habit somewhat, at least until I moved out to the south suburbs where tap water tasted toxic and bottled water seemed outrageously expensive.

I broke the habit again and got caffeine withdrawal headaches so bad, I thought they were migraines. Oddly, I cheered on the short lived pop tax because I wouldn't spend the money. I was in Jewel the other day in the soft drinks aisle and noticed that they are now selling pop at ridiculously low prices...if you buy in outrageous bulk. Think 5-8 two liter bottle requirements. Shocked by the dope dealer similarity, I kept it moving straight to the water section.

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Wut?!?

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

I went vegetarian for fifty days as kind of a gimmick, really just to get me to try new stuff and be outside my comfort zone. Could not imagine forsaking cheese and eggs though, that just seems punitive.

It's inconvenient that humans only maximized brain capacity only after becoming meat eaters.

I don't look at a chimp and animal planet eating a small gazelle and consider it a moral question.

Each thing on this planet lives at the expense of another. It's kind of a shitty reality but it IS reality. On the other hand, each thing might only exist BECAUSE of its utility to another.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Omnivorous shame is the new white guilt.

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One can give life to animals and give them a pleasant existence on Earth and then eat them. This is not immoral. Problem is many of the animal production systems have become truly barbaric. Chicken barns are particularly unpleasant.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

true, technology and efficient management has made meat cheap and plentiful. seems to be backfiring as young generations are avoiding meat specifically for these breakthroughs in meat production.

I dont think this dynamic is limited to food production. There is a revolt starting to brew against technological breakthroughs in a lot of places.

very true. clothes is slower but i think that's an obvious one that's growing too

[quote="Hatchetman"]One can give life to animals and give them a pleasant existence on Earth and then eat them. This is not immoral. Problem is many of the animal production systems have become truly barbaric. Chicken barns are particularly unpleasant.[/quote]


I'm trying to eat less meat. Mostly failing. I agree with Krauthammer's take:

http://www.sj-r.com/article/20150519/OPINION/150519384

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What's wrong with the quote above? It seems properly formatted.

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I raised cattle. they seemed happy as can be. Would have been a shame had they never had the chance to exist. Same with the hens we have now. they love doing their hen things all day long. but when their time's up, its time to go. I took care of you, now you'll take care of me.

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No idea, Joe Orr dolphin.


Agreed. I could easily go to vegetarian for a while but to give up bread, cheese, butter, or anything else made with those ingredients would be stupid.

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The buffalo demand their land back.

vegetarian for moral reasons, but I eat dairy and eggs.

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I think that's the conclusion that Omnivore's Dilemma would lead most people to. But as you say above, the manner of raising them makes a difference.

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There's a chicken "farm" less than 2 miles from my house. The hens live in an old Chevy Suburban. Hyperlocal, man.

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If we don't eat the animals, the animals will surely eat us

Cows, goats, and chickens don't die while producing milk and eggs.

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Welp, you can't have everything

LOL. What do you think happens to every animal involved in that entire process? They get killed. Don't forget all the baby male chicks that get ground up into dog food since there's no need for them. What do you think happens to the male calves? They go to petting farms for bulls?

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Yes I'm aware every animal dies at some point.

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well what the hell's the difference then?

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