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 Post subject: Synthetic Marijuana
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:16 pm 
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I had no idea such stuff was even out there. I'm surprised it was ever legally sold.

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 Post subject: Re: Synthetic Marijuana
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i would never smoke that nasty poison but i know people who do..and they are all smokers afraid of a piss test at work...not surprised it is legal as most harmful drugs are legal..but a harmless plant like marijuana who has never killed a single person in 50k years is only illegal because of big pharma an the liquor and the lumber industry paying off these useless greedy fucks in the government.

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 Post subject: Re: Synthetic Marijuana
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:32 am 
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Weed for pussies.

Who the hell buys this stuff anyways? It's not like weed will kill you. Call me (I'll give you my number) when they make synthetic cocaine or synthetic heroin. Two drugs I've had great times with but quit because I didn't feel like dying anytime soon.

They already have synthetic cocaine and heroin.

Synthetic pot was becoming a much bigger problem in the army in the months before I got out also.

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Marinol, it supposedly takes the edge off chemo treatments and increases appetite.

In many ways it's pointless and probably far more expensive than just rolling some medical grade pot and smoking it.


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 Post subject: Re: Synthetic Marijuana
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I thought the idea was that the synthetic weed as something of a chemical analogue of the real deal. Basically, the molecular structure is such that it's different enough from THC to pass muster under the drug scheduling laws, but once combusted (?) the molecular structure changes into actual THC? Maybe not tho. Never had the stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: Synthetic Marijuana
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:51 pm 
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I tried this stuff once. It was easily the worst high I had ever had in my life.

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I tried this stuff once. It was easily the worst high I had ever had in my life.

Yeah it really is an unsettling high. That stuff is garbage.

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FavreFan wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
I tried this stuff once. It was easily the worst high I had ever had in my life.

Yeah it really is an unsettling high. That stuff is garbage.

When I did it, I felt like I had just huffed a bunch of chemicals. And I had the worst headache ever afterwards.

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I agree with this thread. If you want to be a criminal then just embrace it and do the real stuff.

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wow mini ditka is using my grobber shoop as his avatar? i dunno whether to be annoyed or flattered.

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 Post subject: Re: Synthetic Marijuana
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wow mini ditka is using my grobber shoop as his avatar? i dunno whether to be annoyed or flattered.

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I tweaked it and gave him a little tan.

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 Post subject: Re: Synthetic Marijuana
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oh yeah good call... i was just doing it for a quick effect, i wasn't trying to make it avatar-quality or whatever.

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i would never smoke that nasty poison but i know people who do..and they are all smokers afraid of a piss test at work...not surprised it is legal as most harmful drugs are legal..but a harmless plant like marijuana who has never killed a single person in 50k years is only illegal because of big pharma an the liquor and the lumber industry paying off these useless greedy fucks in the government.


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 Post subject: Re: Synthetic Marijuana
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everyone knows where to buy synthetic piss ...some people won't risk losing a 80k a year salary on it..especially city workers..most do coke because it is out of your system when the weekend ends.

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My ex-brother in law was all over the stuff, because of the piss test thing. Ended up in the ER, think he's purely a coke head now.


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yep, sad that the greedy government creates an epidemic of pill poppers and coke heads because they can not find a way to tax marijuana.

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yep, sad that the greedy government creates an epidemic of pill poppers and coke heads because they can not find a way to tax marijuana.
You know that those people could choose to not do cocaine right?

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 Post subject: Re: Synthetic Marijuana
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yeah of course .... you are aware what i said is true right?

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yep, sad that the greedy government creates an epidemic of pill poppers and coke heads because they can not find a way to tax marijuana.
You know that those people could choose to not do cocaine right?

Be reasonable.

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 Post subject: Re: Synthetic Marijuana
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yeah of course .... you are aware what i said is true right?
It's not though. The government did not create them as cokeheads. They chose to do cocaine.

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I used to make thousands of dollars slinging synthetic marijuana in HS, but then I got busted when they took my synthetic cell phone away:
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I'll see myself out now.......

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yeah of course .... you are aware what i said is true right?
It's not though. The government did not create them as cokeheads. They chose to do cocaine.






what about the government allowing "doctors" to create an epidemic of pill poppers? the 2 most abused drugs in the country are oxy and vicodin

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what about the government allowing "doctors" to create an epidemic of pill poppers? the 2 most abused drugs in the country are oxy and vicodin
That's not true either. Doctors can get in huge trouble for aiding in drug abuse of narcotics. That's why there is a street market for them.

What benefit do doctors get from prescribing them for recreational use?

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is that a serious question?

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is that a serious question?
Yes. What benefit do doctors get from prescribing drugs not designed to treat a medical condition?

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almost everything in life comes down to one thing..money ..money is what doctors get..from big pharma to having full waiting rooms of patients..who do you think operates all of these "pain clinics" ? if marijuana had big money behind it to buy lobbyists and senators/congressmen then it would be legal an be being prescribed now to patients over harmful addictive drugs that kill tens of thousands every year..as opposed to marijuana that has never killed anyone....it is because the wealthiest people who profit from marijuana like it illegal..it keeps the prices high and the demand high and supply low.

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almost everything in life comes down to one thing..money ..money is what doctors get..from big pharma to having full waiting rooms of patients..who do you think operates all of these "pain clinics" ?
You still haven't explained why doctors get money for prescribing drugs for recreational use. You can't just say "money". They aren't going to risk losing their license, and the hundreds of thousands of dollars a year they make, to supply a guy with drugs so he can get high. That's why there is an underground prescription drug market. In general, doctors will deny someones request for narcotics unless it is medically sound to provide them. I'm sure there are some that do that, but even then, they likely aren't getting any extra money by doing it.

If you talk to most doctors, they'll tell you that patients who are simply seeking drugs are not patients they like seeing.

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some people won't risk losing a 80k a year salary on it..especially city workers..most do coke because it is out of your system when the weekend ends.


I know a guy like that.

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You still haven't explained why doctors get money for prescribing drugs for recreational use. You can't just say "money". They aren't going to risk losing their license, and the hundreds of thousands of dollars a year they make, to supply a guy with drugs so he can get high. That's why there is an underground prescription drug market. In general, doctors will deny someones request for narcotics unless it is medically sound to provide them. I'm sure there are some that do that, but even then, they likely aren't getting any extra money by doing it.

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Doctors charge for an office visit when before they give out the script. That's how they make money off prescription drugs.

The biggest problem is not with the orthopedic docs or neurosurgeons, they will give out scripts but they tend to only treat patients in serious need...and once they are no longer in serious need they discontinue treatment. The real problem is with the pain clinics. Someone can go there claiming chronic pain and pretty much become a patient for life. Many of those clincis are not very reputable and they basically just give out pain med scripts to anyone who asks for it. Every once in a while one of them will get busted like recently a doc in Melrose Park got busted. One of my clients was a patient of his..it was all sorts of fucked up. My client was a mess, had chronic foot pain and because of that this doc was giving him vicodin and oxy whenever he wanted it. My client would wash it down with jack daniels every nigth. One look at him and you could tell he was a mess, yet the doc kept giving him pain meds. My client ended up dying 2 days after I settled his work comp case, they found him dead in his house with the uncashed six figure check still sitting on the kitchen table.

For every one Melrose park hack who gets busted there are probably 100s out there still doing it.

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