Calorie counts are more convenient with literally no downside. This is the problem with Libertarians. They have a lot of really good ideas but they are so in love with finding injustice that they get mad when a corporation is required to provide useful information to people with no downside whatsoever.

denis, can you tell me how calorie counts affect your personal liberty?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Or just flat out lie. Yeah that double cheeseburger is like 50 calories....order two you are good

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Does this burger contain asbestos?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Calorie counts have no impact on my liberty unless I run a small business that serves food. It imposes a cost on my business in terms of doing a calorie count analysis and then the risk of getting sued if the calorie counts posted are deemed to be off.

It is government regulation gone amok. You folks think this stuff is all free. Government rules and regulations impose a high cost to society, and this is just one small example. I am all for food safety standards, but you have to draw a line. We got along fine without calories posted on restaurant menus for a long time.

If the restaurant told me to go pound sand, then they would lose my business if that is my big concern.

Last post here for me on this subject as I have now answered your questions. I am not going to make this into a 20 page thread, which I know Brick is willing to do. We obviously have different opinions on the role of government. I am ok with that.

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Are you against food testing because I am 100% positive that calorie counts are simply part of standard food testing. Do you really think that any food company doesn't know the calorie counts?
You picked a terrible line though. Once again, calorie counts are GOOD for people. It gives them more information to let them make a free choice.
They'd lie to you and probably replace your hamburger meat with rat meat and you'd never know.
This is not my last post on the subject.

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An enormous overreaction. Here is New York's law on who is required to post calorie counts:

Small businesses are more or less exempt.

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that's the only issue that complicates matters....i don't go to too many fast food places these days but I was at Chic Fil A last Saturday and they have the calorie counts on the menu, but it's a range , like 720-1130....obviously depending on what drink you get, what side, what condiments, etc.

i agree with Rick that it's a good thing, but it can get really complicated quick. i also think if you feel the need to count calories at a fast food place, you probably shouldn't be eating at one. kinda like if you have to ask, it's too expensive.

I don't know what it is like there but here they almost always have the calorie count for the item and the count for the value meal which is a wide range as diet coke vs. big cup of sugar makes a big difference.

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They shouldn't even have to list ingredients. WHY WON'T THEY LET THE FREE MARKET DECIDE!

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Blago: https://youtube.com/shorts/Lftdxd-YXt8?feature=share

"You can’t love your country only when you win." -President Biden

https://youtu.be/R6e4ruziZBI?si=1G4W1vbh0eGQuHfU

R.I.P. Margarine.

I find the government's transphobia quite disturbing.

Damn the man, holding us fats down...

I couldn't disagree more. This is one area where I wish the government would get more involved but only if it was for making food safer.

I'm not sure it's the man that is doing that.

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Nas: Blago, who has single handedly destroyed CFMB?

Blago: https://youtube.com/shorts/Lftdxd-YXt8?feature=share

"You can’t love your country only when you win." -President Biden

https://youtu.be/R6e4ruziZBI?si=1G4W1vbh0eGQuHfU

Bread , Pasta & Dairy are evil. Eliminate them from your diet & you will lose weight & feel great.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

why in the hell anyone would use margarine is beyond me

What made you make this decision. It's a tough one.

Along with bread and pasta I hear that dinner rolls, croissants and lasagna are also bad for you.

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What's worse for you, carbs or sugar?


I can live without fried food quite easily and I can cut down on carbs if I put in the effort, but my big weakness is desserts.


I just tried an experiment where I played hockey 7 out of 10 days, but didn't diet to see if I can lose weight like that. Turns out I can't. Weigh the exact same as I did 10 days ago


So, now I'm going to eliminate dairy (not a huge part of my diet), soda (I like a coke with meals) and desserts and hopefully I can lose the 20 pounds I've been "trying" to lose for months now.

Going to Cancun in January 21 for the honeymoon and need to look good in my bikini.

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