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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:52 am 
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If I know one thing about Chus' kids, they eat well. Chus knows his steaks.


Only one of them eats steak. The older one is practically a vegetarian.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:54 am 
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To my knowledge, nobody serves a steak that way.
Is this an example of you not being purposefully obtuse?


Do you know of any restaurants that cook a steak to rare, and then only serve the middle portion?
So that is a yes.

The point is that the middle of that looks raw and you eat that portion too. I have no desire to eat raw meat even if it is attached to meat that isn't raw.

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Yeah, and you eat more than the sear.

If you were served just the middle of that you would think it is raw.


Pittsburgh Rare or "blue".

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My wife prefers hers rare to Bleu...I'm a medium rare to rare depending on where I am (high end steakhouse = rare, Fridays = medium rare)

It kills her to have to order a medium rare to rare because she's pregnant...

I've always been fond of you two.


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IMU wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
My wife prefers hers rare to Bleu...I'm a medium rare to rare depending on where I am (high end steakhouse = rare, Fridays = medium rare)

It kills her to have to order a medium rare to rare because she's pregnant...

I've always been fond of you two.


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I'm not going to shit on how someone likes their steak cooked, though...my grandma is of the old school variety where everything must be cooked to death.

I made a steak for her a few years back...to get it to her preferred level of done-ness, I had to set the damn thing on fire.

That was fun.

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good dolphin wrote:
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My wife prefers hers rare to Bleu...I'm a medium rare to rare depending on where I am (high end steakhouse = rare, Fridays = medium rare)

It kills her to have to order a medium rare to rare because she's pregnant...

I've always been fond of you two.


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Actually, soon to be 4...

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I like Braised short ribs or shellfish better than steak.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Do you know of any restaurants that cook a steak to rare, and then only serve the middle portion?
So that is a yes.


What? Do you know of any restaurants that cook a steak to rare, and then only serve the middle portion? Because I don't.

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The point is that the middle of that looks raw and you eat that portion too.


Those steaks were on a grill, which means the middle parts aren't raw. Very rare, but not raw. A rare steak is 130 degrees in the middle. 130 degrees is not raw.


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I have no desire to eat raw meat even if it is attached to meat that isn't raw.


I'm not talking about your preferences, I'm just saying that the steaks IMU posted are not raw.


You are definitely not being purposefully obtuse.

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What? Do you know of any restaurants that cook a steak to rare, and then only serve the middle portion? Because I don't.
No, and I wasn't saying they do that. This is you literally not trying to understand which is ironic given your first comment here. So, no real reason to continue this.

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What? Do you know of any restaurants that cook a steak to rare, and then only serve the middle portion? Because I don't.
No, and I wasn't saying they do that. This is you literally not trying to understand which is ironic given your first comment here. So, no real reason to continue this.


Nice try, Rick.

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If you were served just the middle of that you would think it is raw.

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I like Braised short ribs or shellfish better than steak.


short ribs are ok. They seem like pot roast to me.

I love shellfish. If that makes me a shellfish lover, so be it.

I prefer pork chops to steak

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Chus wrote:
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What? Do you know of any restaurants that cook a steak to rare, and then only serve the middle portion? Because I don't.
No, and I wasn't saying they do that. This is you literally not trying to understand which is ironic given your first comment here. So, no real reason to continue this.


Nice try, Rick.

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If you were served just the middle of that you would think it is raw.
So where did I say that restaurants do that?

I don't know how else to explain it and you don't seem willing to accept my further explanation of the comment. So, as I said, no real reason to continue this. I'm sure every other person reading this understands the point I was making.

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I prefer pork chops to steak


That's just as obscene as a "medium well/well done" steak.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
So where did I say that restaurants do that?


Then what was the point of your "if you were served that, you would think it is raw" comment? Restaurants serve steaks. It would have been weird if I said that the bank serves steaks.

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I don't know how else to explain it and you don't seem willing to accept my further explanation of the comment.

You said that a rare steak is raw. There is no possible way to explain that.


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So, as I said, no real reason to continue this.

Flustered BRick is flustered.

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I'm sure every other person reading this understands the point I was making.


Ah yes, the old "everybody gets it but you" routine. You're better than that, Rick.

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Already answered that.
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The point is that the middle of that looks raw and you eat that portion too. I have no desire to eat raw meat even if it is attached to meat that isn't raw.

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I thought you were done with this.

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The point is that the middle of that looks raw and you eat that portion too. I have no desire to eat raw meat even if it is attached to meat that isn't raw.

Travyon Martin looked like a criminal, but wasn't.

Important to make distinctions.

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IMU wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
The point is that the middle of that looks raw and you eat that portion too. I have no desire to eat raw meat even if it is attached to meat that isn't raw.

Travyon Martin looked like a criminal, but wasn't.

Important to make distinctions.
True. I'll just take the chance on the meat that looks cooked and if I miss out on a great "blue" steak then I'll be fine.

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hold up now. a very rare steak looks cooked on the outside but is raw in the middle. in other words, may be room temp or less.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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The point is that the middle of that looks raw and you eat that portion too. I have no desire to eat raw meat even if it is attached to meat that isn't raw.

Travyon Martin looked like a criminal, but wasn't.

Important to make distinctions.
True. I'll just take the chance on the meat that looks cooked and if I miss out on a great "blue" steak then I'll be fine.


Eat your steak how you want. You aren't alone in not wanting a rare/medium rare steak. When I cook steaks here, mine is medium rare, and the steaks for my wife and MIL, are medium or medium well.

However, suggesting that a rare steak is raw is false. 130 degrees is not raw. Suggesting that there is somebody, or some place, that sears a steak, and then serves only the middle portion is bizarre, and I can't imagine that I am the only person to find that confusing.

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hold up now. a very rare steak looks cooked on the outside but is raw in the middle. in other words, may be room temp or less.
Yup.

Thus the need for the warnings on almost all menus about consuming "raw or undercooked meats".

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hold up now. a very rare steak looks cooked on the outside but is raw in the middle.


A properly prepared and cooked steak, has been brought to room temperature, before it goes on the heat.

You would get sick if you ate a raw steak. I have never gotten sick from eating a rare steak, whether cooked at home, a restaurant, or any other place that serves steak.

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I'm not going to shit on how someone likes their steak cooked, though...my grandma is of the old school variety where everything must be cooked to death.

I made a steak for her a few years back...to get it to her preferred level of done-ness, I had to set the damn thing on fire.

That was fun.


That's how my father-in-law likes his steak also. He wants it so charred on the outside that I literally have to light the thing on fire and let it burn for a while.

I die a little bit inside each time.

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I'm not going to shit on how someone likes their steak cooked, though...my grandma is of the old school variety where everything must be cooked to death.

I made a steak for her a few years back...to get it to her preferred level of done-ness, I had to set the damn thing on fire.

That was fun.


That's how my father-in-law likes his steak also. He wants it so charred on the outside that I literally have to light the thing on fire and let it burn for a while.

I die a little bit inside each time.


I'm sure the double JB on the rocks eases the pain a bit. :wink:

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I've eaten raw meat plenty of times and never gotten sick as far as I can tell. I would not eat rare or raw industrial ground meat though. For that I'd grind my own.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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I'm not going to shit on how someone likes their steak cooked, though...my grandma is of the old school variety where everything must be cooked to death.

I made a steak for her a few years back...to get it to her preferred level of done-ness, I had to set the damn thing on fire.

That was fun.


That's how my father-in-law likes his steak also. He wants it so charred on the outside that I literally have to light the thing on fire and let it burn for a while.

I die a little bit inside each time.
While I'm not that extreme it is my experience that at most cookouts that the cook undercooks anything besides chicken by a significant margin. My plate was a pool of red on my medium well steak. I'll just have a burger.

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I'll just have a burger.


I'll never get the allure of the medium/medium rare/rare cooked burger.

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I do like steak, but if I had to choose 5 things only for the rest of my life, steak ain't making the cut.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
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I'm not going to shit on how someone likes their steak cooked, though...my grandma is of the old school variety where everything must be cooked to death.

I made a steak for her a few years back...to get it to her preferred level of done-ness, I had to set the damn thing on fire.

That was fun.


That's how my father-in-law likes his steak also. He wants it so charred on the outside that I literally have to light the thing on fire and let it burn for a while.

I die a little bit inside each time.
While I'm not that extreme it is my experience that at most cookouts that the cook undercooks anything besides chicken by a significant margin. My plate was a pool of red on my medium well steak. I'll just have a burger.


and at restaurants, the chef wants to impose his will on your eating so medium is medium rare and medium well is medium. I don't order well done or charred steaks

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I prefer pork chops to steak


That's just as obscene as a "medium well/well done" steak.


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