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We are at war with N. Korea currently?

So if they "shouldn't get away with it" then what do you suppose that the U.S. Gov't should do?

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/317501-trump-ordered-raid-in-yemen-approved-without-sufficient-intelligence

Did this generate anything close to this level of "outrage"?

The president sneezes and its generates DEFCON 0 levels of outrage from liberals and the media, so I'm absolutely sure that story did.

There wasn't much outrage on this message board. Barely a mention from those that typically traffic in everything "fake news" related.

No peace treaty has ever been signed to end the Korean War, just a truce to return prisoners.

The United States could easily lean hard enough on China to get them to break diplomatic relations with the DPRK, which would lead to collapse of the North Korea government within a year or two. We haven't done that because its never been worth it for the USA to do that, maybe that changes now.

The U.S. isn't currently at war with N. Korea.

Korean War has never formally ended. This is a clear matter of fact.

Well this kid is a casualty of war and why is there all the fuss with this being the case?

Well this kid is a casualty of war and why is there all the fuss with this being the case?

Even in war the targeting of civilians with no military justification for death is a big deal.

So -it's fine that he was tortured and killed because he's a idiot for going and possibly stealing a poster. He thought he was above the law. But if you sell cigarettes or CDs outside a store then fight the police it's a national outrage. Nothing stupid or asking for it in that behavior.

It's pretty amazing that certain segments of the media can sell that, and posters here buy into that line of logic.

Even in war the targeting of civilians with no military justification for death is a big deal.

Ask the citizens of Tokyo who we firebombed .

And Korean War was a misnomer, it technically was/is a "police action" for which no formal declaration of war was ever made by Congress.

I haven't really found those segments and I don't think anyone is suggesting that he should have been tortured and killed for going. He shouldn't have been killed and he also shouldn't have gone to N. Korea. Those two are interrelated. It isn't different from those that question the parenting of people who allow their children to be unintended in dangerous places. I'm sure some of the same people criticizing the left were also the same ones questioning the parents of the kid they found dead about a month ago. This situation is no different.


Every argument doesn't have to be politicized either. This really isn't a right or left argument although it has devolved into one.

Bombing and killing citizens of foreign countries is never really a big deal. The outrage here is proof of that.

It's not a right/left debate. It's a question of what people choose to be outraged by. RR said this kid was asking for it because he thought he was "above it". Ogie says it's good for the gene pool that he died because of his stupid choices. Yet, if a confrontation with the police happens here they are not going to blame the dead person for putting him or herself in that situation. That's all.

I didn't initially mention the kid's race, gender or political affiliation, just that he picked a dumb jump off point for this entire matter. I am/was irritated by those ginning up the outrage of others, be it for politics, profit or other cynical reasons.

Look guys, I never defended North Korea. I just said it was this kid's fault the North Koreans murdered him.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

You just make things up don't you?

I think the one trump card for being rightfully outraged at this story is the guy - dumb or not - is a citizen of this country. He went to another country, something most probably uneventful happened, he was detained, possibly tortured, etc., and then was sent back brain dead. That's not supposed to happen, and the administration should get involved. This is different if he murdered someone, stole secrets, etc., but if the details of this story are true, then this isn't supposed to happen. This seems like an event tailor made for someone like Trump to take advantage of - it has all the right ingredients. Something happened to an American citizen at the hands of a country that's pretty much universally disliked, so it'd be easy for Trump to talk tough and actually get lauded for it. But he botched it.

If this place were really outraged by it then I would be. Your response is illustrative of what I am referencing. Rather than focus on the topic at hand you choose to focus on me. I unlike you have the facts on my side. Its a bastard when that happens isn't it?