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SpiralStairs
 Post subject: Re: Generational Trauma
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:23 pm 
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Trauma breeds trauma.


the japanese forced the koreans to abandon their language and culture for a generation, did unspeakable horrors to them and to the chinese/filipinos and it seems as though the descendants have done just fine - especially in the usa/canada/australia.

american trauma is...? a couple refuse to compromise or the male is corrupted by porn and the woman sleeps with the first man who compliments her shoes? is that non-violent trauma?


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SpiralStairs wrote:
NWsider4-3-3 wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Trauma breeds trauma.


the japanese forced the koreans to abandon their language and culture for a generation, did unspeakable horrors to them and to the chinese/filipinos and it seems as though the descendants have done just fine - especially in the usa/canada/australia.

american trauma is...? a couple refuse to compromise or the male is corrupted by porn and the woman sleeps with the first man who compliments her shoes? is that non-violent trauma?


Reading is a skill

Resiliency isn't a skill. It's in the DNA.
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 Post subject: Re: Generational Trauma
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Does anyone believe this stuff? We're supposed to believe that if you grew up in a house and were abused by your parent or caregiver and a bunch of murders and stuff happened in your neighborhood, that that has an effect on your life and your relationships with people going forward.

Is this what people really believe?

I thought generational trauma was more about that stuff happening to a parent or grandparent or great-grandparent and ultimately impacting you.


You mean to tell me that if my grand-parents and parents were abused by their parents or caregivers and a bunch of murders and stuff happened in their neighborhoods that it would have an effect on their lives and their relationships with their children going forward? Get the fuck outta here!

Kind of. More so that if great grandpa SS had a rough time in the war, that may have influenced his treatment of grandpa s. He’ll internalize that along with his own experiences and it’ll impact pappy ss and therefore SS, whether or not you’ve had any direct connection to any of these people.


Kids are resilient.

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 Post subject: Re: Generational Trauma
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Nardi wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
NWsider4-3-3 wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Trauma breeds trauma.


the japanese forced the koreans to abandon their language and culture for a generation, did unspeakable horrors to them and to the chinese/filipinos and it seems as though the descendants have done just fine - especially in the usa/canada/australia.

american trauma is...? a couple refuse to compromise or the male is corrupted by porn and the woman sleeps with the first man who compliments her shoes? is that non-violent trauma?


Reading is a skill

Resiliency isn't a skill. It's in the DNA.


So it IS all predestination! Those Calvinists we’re way ahead of their time.

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 Post subject: Re: Generational Trauma
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Does anyone believe this stuff? We're supposed to believe that if you grew up in a house and were abused by your parent or caregiver and a bunch of murders and stuff happened in your neighborhood, that that has an effect on your life and your relationships with people going forward.

Is this what people really believe?

I thought generational trauma was more about that stuff happening to a parent or grandparent or great-grandparent and ultimately impacting you.


You mean to tell me that if my grand-parents and parents were abused by their parents or caregivers and a bunch of murders and stuff happened in their neighborhoods that it would have an effect on their lives and their relationships with their children going forward? Get the fuck outta here!

Kind of. More so that if great grandpa SS had a rough time in the war, that may have influenced his treatment of grandpa s. He’ll internalize that along with his own experiences and it’ll impact pappy ss and therefore SS, whether or not you’ve had any direct connection to any of these people.


Kids are resilient.


This is what parents say to absolve themselves of any responsibility for their own shitty behavior. To be sure, kids are smart and have a lot of resolve but they aren’t adults.

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 Post subject: Re: Generational Trauma
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SpiralStairs wrote:
Nardi wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
NWsider4-3-3 wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Trauma breeds trauma.


the japanese forced the koreans to abandon their language and culture for a generation, did unspeakable horrors to them and to the chinese/filipinos and it seems as though the descendants have done just fine - especially in the usa/canada/australia.

american trauma is...? a couple refuse to compromise or the male is corrupted by porn and the woman sleeps with the first man who compliments her shoes? is that non-violent trauma?


Reading is a skill

Resiliency isn't a skill. It's in the DNA.


So it IS all predestination! Those Calvinists we’re way ahead of their time.


I think Sam Harris has headed a new atheistic predestination movement

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SpiralStairs wrote:
Nardi wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
NWsider4-3-3 wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Trauma breeds trauma.


the japanese forced the koreans to abandon their language and culture for a generation, did unspeakable horrors to them and to the chinese/filipinos and it seems as though the descendants have done just fine - especially in the usa/canada/australia.

american trauma is...? a couple refuse to compromise or the male is corrupted by porn and the woman sleeps with the first man who compliments her shoes? is that non-violent trauma?


Reading is a skill

Resiliency isn't a skill. It's in the DNA.


So it IS all predestination! Those Calvinists we’re way ahead of their time.

I think there's something to the theory that God and Satan meet up at the club everyday to play poker.
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 Post subject: Re: Generational Trauma
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Does anyone believe this stuff? We're supposed to believe that if you grew up in a house and were abused by your parent or caregiver and a bunch of murders and stuff happened in your neighborhood, that that has an effect on your life and your relationships with people going forward.

Is this what people really believe?

I thought generational trauma was more about that stuff happening to a parent or grandparent or great-grandparent and ultimately impacting you.


You mean to tell me that if my grand-parents and parents were abused by their parents or caregivers and a bunch of murders and stuff happened in their neighborhoods that it would have an effect on their lives and their relationships with their children going forward? Get the fuck outta here!

Kind of. More so that if great grandpa SS had a rough time in the war, that may have influenced his treatment of grandpa s. He’ll internalize that along with his own experiences and it’ll impact pappy ss and therefore SS, whether or not you’ve had any direct connection to any of these people.


Kids are resilient.


So is trauma until it's resolved.

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If this is true, do you think my kid is going to force my grandkids to wear masks to school?

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 Post subject: Re: Generational Trauma
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Brick wrote:
If this is true, do you think my kid is going to force my grandkids to wear masks to school?


His reaction to you is going to be to not have kids

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good dolphin wrote:
Brick wrote:
If this is true, do you think my kid is going to force my grandkids to wear masks to school?


His reaction to you is going to be to not have kids


Debatable

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If this is true, do you think my kid is going to force my grandkids to wear masks to school?


His reaction to you is going to be to not have kids

His loss. The best part about having kids is you win every argument.

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Brick wrote:
If this is true, do you think my kid is going to force my grandkids to wear masks to school?



I'm not convinced that wearing a mask to school is the traumatic part.

The over reaction of obsessive and neurotic adults is far more troubling to a child.

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So is trauma until it's resolved.
Homeless people with unresolved trauma out there because they want to be.

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Seacrest wrote:
Brick wrote:
If this is true, do you think my kid is going to force my grandkids to wear masks to school?



I'm not convinced that wearing a mask to school is the traumatic part.

The over reaction of obsessive and neurotic adults is far more troubling to a child.

Not mutually exclusive. I'll say both are troubling / traumatic.

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