You mean the bodies at Sandy Hook, Vegas, Stoneman Douglas High, and The Pulse nightclub? The reaction so far has been pretty much nothing, outside of gun crazies like you stocking up on weapons and spouting off on social media.

Yeah, there should be some major blowback against the NRA and any politician who accepts campaign donations from them. The Status Quo isn't working.

For weapons. And there were illegal weapons on the property. The residents of the compound refused to let them in, and a shootout ensued.

If you refused to let the Feds into your house to serve a warrant, it would likely not end well for you either.

I don't understand why so many people this board have a penchant for defending child rape(Nassar, Waco). Koresh admitted to sleeping with 13 year old girls..you do realize that? That's reason enough to bust up the joint.

I don't understand why so many people this board have a penchant for defending child rape(Nassar, Waco). Koresh admitted to sleeping with 13 year old girls..you do realize that? That's reason enough to bust up the joint.

Then why wasn't there an FBI warrant for that?

Every cop I've ever spoken to I've asked them how they feel about armed citizens and concealed carry. Info speak to a lot of cops by the way by virtue of my time at ranges and the fact I work in hundreds if not thousands of homes every year. Almost every single one has supported armed citizens and concealed carry. In fact I don't really recall any of them not supporting it.

I don't understand why so many people this board have a penchant for defending child rape(Nassar, Waco). Koresh admitted to sleeping with 13 year old girls..you do realize that? That's reason enough to bust up the joint.

Well we know why Chas does.

Well they sure shoot a lot of unarmed citizens because they fear for their lives.

Bottom line, cite another example other than David Koresh for your gun arguments. (PSA).

Bottom line, cite another example other than David Koresh for your gun arguments. (PSA).

People react differently when those who are killed are killed by an agent of the government rather than by some loon.

This is both on the left and the right. Just look at the reaction when someone is gunned down by police. There is often real anger and violence that follows. I don't condemn such violence as I can certainly understand where the anger comes from when the cop gets off without even being charged in a case where the shooting is at best questionable and at worst cold blooded murder.

Heck, there has been actual blowback to such cases. See Dallas. I'd argue that was blowback in the exact same way Oklahoma City was blowback to Waco

You know I am a fuck up we know that okay but fuck you okay pal. We adults are trying to have a civil talk. Go play in traffic

They do that even when they know the citizen is not carrying a gun so taking guns away from citizens will not end cop shootings. They will just say they fear the suspect because he had a knife. CPD is currently dealing with such a high profile case.

We're not talking about cops here. We are talking about somebody walking to a school and slaughtering MANY people.

This isn't a left or right issue. It's a gun person issue. You people try to turn it into "well X won't work because of Y" and then that's it. There are countless measures, laws, and practices in place to lessen these murders, and the calls of "Never apologize. Never surrender. Never negotiate." Is the biggest problem as to why things won't change and why this continues to happen. It's not because of laws or politicians, its because of people like you that these mass shootings continue to occur. If you are OK with the blood on your hands that's fine, but don't try to deny it.

I'm not sure if Adolph Hilter supports the Government better not underestimate the ability of it's citizens to rise against them narrative.

He had a famous quote along the lines of the first step in taking over a society is in disarming it

And there it is. Tyranny This isn't the fucking Dark Ages, man.

Stop changing the argument. I am not talking about cops or handguns. I am talking about people the readily available assault rifles which are being used to blow away innocent victims in mere seconds. Unless you are in the military or on a police force, these weapons are not needed. Period.

For you to say they are means you are problem here.

He had a famous quote along the lines of the first step in taking over a society is in disarming it

And there it is. Tyranny This isn't the fucking Dark Ages, man.

Stop changing the argument. I am not talking about cops or handguns. I am talking about the readily available assault rifles which are being used to blow away innocent victims in mere seconds. Unless you are in the military or on a police force, these weapons are not needed. Period.

For you to say they are means you are problem here.

Holy fuck Chas. What you listed are basically hunting rifles, and guns that you see on Pawn Stars.

The M-1 Garand with 2 simple modifications and hillbilly can do in his garage make it fully auto and accept a 20 round magazine same as an AR-15.

Gun nuts threatening to kill everyone if they don't get their way is a great reason to want tighter gun control.