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Author:  312player [ Sun May 07, 2017 11:07 am ]
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Chus wrote:
312player wrote:
I hate siding, these young people under 30 love that smart siding, I like all brick n stone.


Drive through any new-ish subdivision, and look at all of the cheap siding peeling away from the houses. Brick and stone is definitely the way to go. The house has better resale value, and it is a better insulator than siding. It's expensive, but totally worth it.



Depends where the subdivision is, the villages with higher taxes n better schools have covenants n restrictions on the first story being all brick n stone.

Author:  Chus [ Sun May 07, 2017 11:09 am ]
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KDdidit wrote:
I don't know shit about house construction, but because dman likes them I'll just believe Pulte is some libertarian company that hates unions and the executives all spend their money on travel baseball teams for their kids :lol:


To be fair to Pulte, all builders hate union workers. Of course, they would rather hire cheaper labor. On a Montalbano job, they tried hiring non-union guys to do the gutters, despite being contractually obligated to hire union labor. One the rest of the trades found out, we walked off the job. We never saw those gutter guys again.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Sun May 07, 2017 11:45 am ]
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lol, that green really IS Airport Irish Pub!

Author:  Peoria Matt [ Sun May 07, 2017 12:10 pm ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
found it. right over where I fell through the ice and almost drown.


Explains a lot. How long did you not have oxygen?



:lol:

Author:  Chus [ Sun May 07, 2017 12:14 pm ]
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Furious Styles wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Chus wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Hah, there's nothing urban about me. I don't hate front facing, but I like the look of our side loader. Pulte has nice facade's in front. Too bad they don't offer all brick options. The rest of the outside is bland.


I have worked on several Pulte projects. They are probably the worst builders out there.


I don't understand you. You literally say the opposite of anything I post. I am not sure if you're serious or just trolling.

No, that's Chas.
:lol:

Author:  Chus [ Sun May 07, 2017 12:16 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
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lol, that green really IS Airport Irish Pub!


The tray ceiling. What a waste. Just upgrade to 9' ceilings.

Author:  leashyourkids [ Sun May 07, 2017 12:17 pm ]
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Peoria Matt wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
found it. right over where I fell through the ice and almost drown.


Explains a lot. How long did you not have oxygen?


I would have expected Hatchet to drown from looking up into the rain.

:lol:

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Sun May 07, 2017 12:35 pm ]
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leashyourdolphin wrote:
Peoria Matt[quote="leashyourkids wrote:
Quote:
[quote="Hatchetman"found it. right over where I fell through the ice and almost drown.


Explains a lot. How long did you not have oxygen?


I would have expected Hatchet to drown from looking up into the rain.

:lol:[/quote][/quote]

Author:  formerlyknownas [ Sun May 07, 2017 12:41 pm ]
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312player wrote:
Chus wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Chus, I just don't know if you're serious. Apparently you are. You just seem like such a contrarian. It runs 100% counter to all of my experiences.


I have been in more new construction homes than probably anybody here. Certainly more than you. I have seen good builders and bad builders. Don't take it so personally.

The shortcuts that I have seen on Pulte jobs are sickening. I would never buy a Pulte home.




Yeah, pulte is shit..hartz is the absolute worst.

Indeed, Hartz blows....the old man was a cheap-ass on the golf course, too

Author:  leashyourkids [ Sun May 07, 2017 12:41 pm ]
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Whoops!

Author:  Curious Hair [ Sun May 07, 2017 1:05 pm ]
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hell yes Scottsdale

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Author:  sumlord [ Sun May 07, 2017 1:12 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
hell yes Scottsdale

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so now the expert on all is expert on BUILDING TO???????

guess those FROXEN pizza delivery classes payed off!!! lol... next watch mr CURIOUS tell us about DOLAR COST AVG techniqes from his 1 bedroom!!!!!!!!

Author:  Curious Hair [ Sun May 07, 2017 1:15 pm ]
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yessssssss I wanted to draw out Big Brane/sumlord and I GOT IT

Author:  Furious Styles [ Sun May 07, 2017 3:15 pm ]
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Pulte sounds like Kruger Industrial Smoothing.

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Author:  Seacrest [ Mon May 08, 2017 10:13 am ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
found it. right over where I fell through the ice and almost drown.


Explains a lot. How long did you not have oxygen?

:lol:
Fuckin leash

Author:  good dolphin [ Mon May 08, 2017 10:42 am ]
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Chus wrote:
312player wrote:
I hate siding, these young people under 30 love that smart siding, I like all brick n stone.


Drive through any new-ish subdivision, and look at all of the cheap siding peeling away from the houses. Brick and stone is definitely the way to go. The house has better resale value, and it is a better insulator than siding. It's expensive, but totally worth it.


I think you are minimizing the expense.

I'm also not sure that people appreciate brick as much as they used to but it might just be a function of the cost of brick changing tastes. There is some very nice siding out there now but that can also get expensive. I really don't like the look where the front façade is brick but it is siding on the other three sides. They usually use very cheap siding on those type of homes.

Author:  Brick [ Mon May 08, 2017 10:43 am ]
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We decided to forgo siding on our house and instead cover it in leather.

Author:  Chus [ Mon May 08, 2017 10:53 am ]
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Chus wrote:
312player wrote:
I hate siding, these young people under 30 love that smart siding, I like all brick n stone.


Drive through any new-ish subdivision, and look at all of the cheap siding peeling away from the houses. Brick and stone is definitely the way to go. The house has better resale value, and it is a better insulator than siding. It's expensive, but totally worth it.


good dolphin wrote:
I think you are minimizing the expense.


Not at all. It could be as much as $30-$40k. If you are being smart, and buying a house within your means, rather than what the bank pre-approval was, you can swing it. Especially, when you figure in long term factors, such as resale value, and lower energy bills.

good dolphin wrote:
I'm also not sure that people appreciate brick as much as they used to but it might just be a function of the cost of brick changing tastes. There is some very nice siding out there now but that can also get expensive. I really don't like the look where the front façade is brick but it is siding on the other three sides. They usually use very cheap siding on those type of homes.


Nobody appreciates BRick more than I do. Believe me.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon May 08, 2017 10:57 am ]
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I love brick. You don't have to paint it.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon May 08, 2017 11:01 am ]
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Personally I don't think much of most new construction. It's usually a game of which corners did they cut (to me).

The one that really baffles me are where some or all of the master bath is open to the rest of the master suite. How many people want to live in a Sybaris knock off?

Author:  leashyourkids [ Mon May 08, 2017 11:02 am ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
Personally I don't think much of most new construction. It's usually a game of which corners did they cut (to me).

The one that really baffles me are where some or all of the master bath is open to the rest of the master suite. How many people want to live in a Sybaris knock off?


Panther

Author:  Bagels [ Mon May 08, 2017 11:05 am ]
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:lol: :lol:

Author:  Brick [ Mon May 08, 2017 11:19 am ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
Personally I don't think much of most new construction. It's usually a game of which corners did they cut (to me).
Depends on the builder. You can choose a cheap one like denis did or get a high quality one.

Older houses that get gutted and then redone can have just as many corners cut with an outside that is still old with outdated standards. I just don't really get the concept of redoing everything in a really old house and keeping the frame. Then again I'm not a Cubs fan.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon May 08, 2017 11:23 am ]
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Id like to congratulate Dennis on buying the one house that Pulte built well.

Author:  City of Fools [ Mon May 08, 2017 11:32 am ]
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we had always thought about building our own place, but it's the most expensive thing to do, apparently. We make under 70k combined, so we're obviously having to scrimp and save, and frankly we're hoping there's another economic downturn so we can acutally afford a house out here

Author:  City of Fools [ Mon May 08, 2017 11:32 am ]
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tell someone who knows nothing what corners get cut most often...?

Author:  Brick [ Mon May 08, 2017 11:42 am ]
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City of Fools wrote:
tell someone who knows nothing what corners get cut most often...?
Non-aesthetic things mostly. Cheaper flooring that still looks good. Poor frame design or inadequate insulation. Using caulk to hide gaps.

When we were looking for a house there was one that looked absolutely amazing in pictures. We asked our realtor why we weren't seeing it. He said the house was badly made but designed to look great. He said I'll still take you there. The floor that looked magnificent literally creaked on every step because it was made of the cheapest flooring possible. I don't remember what it was but it was the cheapest fake hardwood. That house was like 3 years old. He pointed out a bunch of small things too many of which you wouldn't even normally notice especially before you buy it. He also had stories of others finding no insulation in the walls and as mentioned before major issues with duct work.

The sad part for the current owners was this wasn't a home that they had bought for well below the market rate of other comparable homes. I believe I looked later and they took a massive hit on the sale price they got from the builder.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Mon May 08, 2017 12:02 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Personally I don't think much of most new construction. It's usually a game of which corners did they cut (to me).
Depends on the builder. You can choose a cheap one like denis did or get a high quality one.

Older houses that get gutted and then redone can have just as many corners cut with an outside that is still old with outdated standards. I just don't really get the concept of redoing everything in a really old house and keeping the frame. Then again I'm not a Cubs fan.


You know what looks awful, when they take a lot that originally had something like a basic ranch, tear it down and put a mini mansion on it. Norridge is just one example where I have seen that a ton. Literally no backyard or space between the next house.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Mon May 08, 2017 12:03 pm ]
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City of Fools wrote:
tell someone who knows nothing what corners get cut most often...?


Windows as well. Cheapest windows they can possible find.

Author:  Brick [ Mon May 08, 2017 12:07 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
You know what looks awful, when they take a lot that originally had something like a basic ranch, tear it down and put a mini mansion on it. Norridge is just one example where I have seen that a ton. Literally no backyard or space between the next house.
At least you get an elevator in your house. It's like living in the Loop!

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