To me it's a tragedy, but I can't help but realize this sort of treatment is happening on a massive scale to regular North Koreans.

Do I hear the sound of butting in? It's gotta be little Don Tiny, CFMB's answer to a a QUESTION NO ONE ASKED!

Peeps? You are the worst human being I have ever met.

Actions have consequences.

Does that apply across the board or just in this instance? I mean, would you say that to a girl who got loaded at a frat party and was raped? I don't think you would. So why do it here? If this guy did anything wrong it certainly wasn't anything egregious enough to justify even a day in prison let alone the death penalty.

He visited North Korea. That was where he went wrong. Very simple concept.

He visited North Korea. That was where he went wrong. Very simple concept.

Did you know that two thousand years ago a Roman citizen could walk across the face of the known world free of the fear of molestation? He could walk across the Earth unharmed, cloaked only in the protection of the words civis Romanus -- I am a Roman citizen. So great was the retribution of Rome, universally understood as certain, should any harm befall even one of its citizens. Where was Otto's protection? Where is the retribution for the families, and where is the warning to the rest of the world that Americans shall walk this Earth unharmed, lest the clenched fist of the most mighty military force in the history of mankind comes crashing down on your house?! In other words, what the hell are we doing here?!

Almost every tragic story is preceded by some ill-advised behavior on the part of the victim. I'm not sure what the point of hammering on such a fact is.

CTE?

I assume any American going there is CIA cover. I think the NK believe that as well. If true, it changes the story a little but is till not worthy of a death sentence.

Did you know that two thousand years ago a Roman citizen could walk across the face of the known world free of the fear of molestation? He could walk across the Earth unharmed, cloaked only in the protection of the words civis Romanus -- I am a Roman citizen. So great was the retribution of Rome, universally understood as certain, should any harm befall even one of its citizens. Where was Otto's protection? Where is the retribution for the families, and where is the warning to the rest of the world that Americans shall walk this Earth unharmed, lest the clenched fist of the most mighty military force in the history of mankind comes crashing down on your house?! In other words, what the hell are we doing here?!

I like how everyone just believes that Warmbier tried stealing the poster because the North Koreans said he did. Like, Ogie wont trust the American justice system to save his life but somehow isn't willing to question a confession achieved by obvious torture or grainy, clearly staged video of the supposed crime. But even if he did do it the penalty for such crimes isn't death.

The amount of told-you-so'ing by the boring people in this thread who barely ever leave suburban Chicago is pretty pathetic. If the riskiest thing you do every day is drive to work you're throwing your life away just as much as Warmbier did, but in a different and much more pathetic way.

I don't need to believe he stole the poster to think he's an idiot for visiting North Korea. You can go there, obey every law, and still end up like Mr. Wamrbier and I'll say you were a moron for going there. Of course North Korea trumps up charges on foreigners. You would know that without going there.

I'm pretty sure the State Department has had a warning against visiting there for quite some time...

https://travel.state.gov/content/passpo ... rning.html

As I said, he's a moron who found a creative way to remove himself from the gene pool. Now let's move on.

Would you say the same about someone who got into a a wrestling match with the police or carried a gun?

You seem to be pretty brazen in blaming this guy, while complaining about the oppressive government here.

I can blame both parties. It takes a special type of stupid to travel to North Korea when it is no secret what happens to Americans who do so.

I can blame him for being a complete moron who did something incredibly stupid. I can also blame North Korea for their absolute brutality, which is why you shouldn't travel there in the 1st place.

Also your analogy is bullshit. There is no similarity between having your rights taken away by a public servant who is sworn to serve and protect and putting yourself in a position where you are at the mercy of the most brutal regime currently on this planet.

No. In both cases the person is putting themselves into a position of risk. You've just decided that this guy's behavior needs to be ridiculed. I would say wrestling with the police is also very high risk, yet there is outrage rather than- what was he expecting fighting with a police officer.

Would you say the same about someone who got into a a wrestling match with the police or carried a gun?

You seem to be pretty brazen in blaming this guy, while complaining about the oppressive government here.

So what Ogie is basically saying is that when you are in a country you are at the mercy of however the government acts and therefore it is your fault with how they treat you? I would think a guy who has complained many times about our own government would not want to set that precedent to his posts.