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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:31 am 
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Did they stop doing controlled burns of the brush? If so, why?

Controlled burns were scrapped in favor of decolonization seminars.

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I'll go out on a limb and say recent fuckups combined with decades of fuckups combined with climate issues caused a giant disaster.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Did they stop doing controlled burns of the brush? If so, why?

https://www.kqed.org/science/1994972/forest-service-halts-prescribed-burns-california-worth-risk

The excuse seems to be that resources were redirected outside the area to fight current wildfires and the conditions had worsened to the point where controlled fires had a significant risk of becoming uncontrolled fires.

Obviously a huge mistake in hindsight.

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Brick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Did they stop doing controlled burns of the brush? If so, why?

https://www.kqed.org/science/1994972/forest-service-halts-prescribed-burns-california-worth-risk

The excuse seems to be that resources were redirected outside the area to fight current wildfires and the conditions had worsened to the point where controlled fires had a significant risk of becoming uncontrolled fires.

Obviously a huge mistake in hindsight.


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“There are two times in the year when it’s safe to do prescribed fire: in the fall right before the rains come...


Editors note: The rains did not come.

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Brick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Did they stop doing controlled burns of the brush? If so, why?

https://www.kqed.org/science/1994972/forest-service-halts-prescribed-burns-california-worth-risk

The excuse seems to be that resources were redirected outside the area to fight current wildfires and the conditions had worsened to the point where controlled fires had a significant risk of becoming uncontrolled fires.

Obviously a huge mistake in hindsight.

In hindsight?

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Bass also took heat from far-left activists online, who accused the mayor of cutting the fire department’s budget in order to pay for a costly new contract with the city’s police. Also weighing in against her was Patrick Soon-Shiong, the politically idiosyncratic owner of the Los Angeles Times, who echoed the attack, posting on X that “the Mayor cut LA Fire Department’s budget by $23M.”

That assertion is wrong. The city was in the process of negotiating a new contract with the fire department at the time the budget was being crafted, so additional funding for the department was set aside in a separate fund until that deal was finalized in November. In fact, the city’s fire budget increased more than $50 million year-over-year compared to the last budget cycle, according to Blumenfield’s office, although overall concerns about the department’s staffing level have persisted for a number of years.

But the mayor’s team did not push back on the record to inquiries about Soon-Shiong’s post, allowing the incorrect information to circulate widely online for most of Wednesday. Bass briefly noted in the news conference that LAFD’s budget was higher than what was allocated on July 1.


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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Brick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Did they stop doing controlled burns of the brush? If so, why?

https://www.kqed.org/science/1994972/forest-service-halts-prescribed-burns-california-worth-risk

The excuse seems to be that resources were redirected outside the area to fight current wildfires and the conditions had worsened to the point where controlled fires had a significant risk of becoming uncontrolled fires.

Obviously a huge mistake in hindsight.

In hindsight?

Yes. If there had been rain and also not 100 mph wind gusts it is possible that the controlled fires could have caused actual wildfires.

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Brick wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Brick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Did they stop doing controlled burns of the brush? If so, why?

https://www.kqed.org/science/1994972/forest-service-halts-prescribed-burns-california-worth-risk

The excuse seems to be that resources were redirected outside the area to fight current wildfires and the conditions had worsened to the point where controlled fires had a significant risk of becoming uncontrolled fires.

Obviously a huge mistake in hindsight.

In hindsight?

Yes. If there had been rain and also not 100 mph wind gusts it is possible that the controlled fires could have caused actual wildfires.

The controlled fires would’ve spread in the event of rain and no wind?

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The controlled fires would’ve spread in the event of rain and no wind?

Controlled fires can become uncontrolled especially in the extremely dry conditions they've had recently. It's happened in California before. It's referenced in the article I posted which I now have to assume you did not read.

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The controlled fires would’ve spread in the event of rain and no wind?

Controlled fires can become uncontrolled especially in the extremely dry conditions they've had recently. It's happened in California before. It's referenced in the article I posted which I now have to assume you did not read.

Why would rain and no wind cause dry conditions?

That’s what was referenced in the post you made which I’m forced to assume you didn’t read.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Brick wrote:
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The controlled fires would’ve spread in the event of rain and no wind?

Controlled fires can become uncontrolled especially in the extremely dry conditions they've had recently. It's happened in California before. It's referenced in the article I posted which I now have to assume you did not read.

Why would rain and no wind cause dry conditions?

That’s what was referenced in the post you made which I’m forced to assume you didn’t read.
You don't seem to be understanding the sentence so I will amend it.

Yes. If there had been rain and also not 100 mph wind gusts after the controlled fires the fire danger would have subsided but it is possible that the controlled fires could have caused actual wildfires unnecessarily because it rained and there weren't 100 mph wind gusts a few months later.

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Brick wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Brick wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The controlled fires would’ve spread in the event of rain and no wind?

Controlled fires can become uncontrolled especially in the extremely dry conditions they've had recently. It's happened in California before. It's referenced in the article I posted which I now have to assume you did not read.

Why would rain and no wind cause dry conditions?

That’s what was referenced in the post you made which I’m forced to assume you didn’t read.
You don't seem to be understanding the sentence so I will amend it.

Yes. If there had been rain and also not 100 mph wind gusts after the controlled fires the fire danger would have subsided but it is possible that the controlled fires could have caused actual wildfires unnecessarily because it rained and there weren't 100 mph wind gusts a few months later.

That’s worse than the original sentence.

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https://www.newsweek.com/florida-ron-de ... ge-1912257

Another DEI screwup

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In hindsight, it seems LA never had a chance:

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Name me one U.S. city with a black mayor that is run correctly ? The 3 biggest cities in America are run by blacks and they are all in despair.


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Hell yeah. This thread rules. Hitting all the bullet points.

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Maybe she’s just a black woman ( ?) trying to raise black kids in a racist
city !!

Fun fact, she was on Biden's 3 person shortlist for VP. As bad as Kamala was, we could've had even worse.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Brick wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Brick wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The controlled fires would’ve spread in the event of rain and no wind?

Controlled fires can become uncontrolled especially in the extremely dry conditions they've had recently. It's happened in California before. It's referenced in the article I posted which I now have to assume you did not read.

Why would rain and no wind cause dry conditions?

That’s what was referenced in the post you made which I’m forced to assume you didn’t read.
You don't seem to be understanding the sentence so I will amend it.

Yes. If there had been rain and also not 100 mph wind gusts after the controlled fires the fire danger would have subsided but it is possible that the controlled fires could have caused actual wildfires unnecessarily because it rained and there weren't 100 mph wind gusts a few months later.

That’s worse than the original sentence.

That's fine.

Let me create a completely new sentence.

In regards to the controlled burns, they had to weigh the odds that their controlled burn would become uncontrollable against the odds that the normal rains wouldn't come, 100 mph wind gusts would happen, and the city would see catastrophic fires. In hindsight, they chose poorly though even with the controlled burns there were still going to be pretty massive fires.

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What an exciting time for insurance companies and climate change.

Insurance companies are going to just leave the California market as the state legislature won't let them raise premiums.

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Just my observation being a frequent visitor to the area. In 2024 I was in the area in April and I was very surprised how wet and green it was. There were loads of rain and melt from Jan-Apr. Remember how Lakes Mead and Tahoe were refilling?

Anyway drought since May but that is expected and all those reservoirs etc were full. I saw them. I have no idea how a mayor or lesbian fire chief matters but something seems wrong.

Keeping an eye on the grandkids in Santa Clarita as they are close to the Hurst fire. Their friends lost a property already. Maybe they will find real blame somewhere but with these winds this year not much you could do. Outside of making sure the water pressure works.

It seems their issue isn't a lack of water so much as a lack of pumping capacity for the demanded loads. They have more than enough water to fight the fires, but cannot deliver it to the hydrants.

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Hell yeah. This thread rules. Hitting all the bullet points.

You know who else likes bullets?

Black people

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Time to buy lumber futures and Home Depot stock.

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Time to buy lumber futures and Home Depot stock.

You'd think, but Bass is a NIMBY mayor and CA has a bunch of dumb red tape so it will be about 5 years before anyone gets a permit to rebuild anything. See my thread on people fleeing blue states for red. The Paradise fire was 6.5 years ago and I think fewer than 15% of the town has been rebuilt. LA will be even worse than rural CA when it comes to this.

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KDdidit wrote:
What an exciting time for insurance companies and climate change.

Insurance companies are going to just leave the California market as the state legislature won't let them raise premiums.

Hope Luigi doesnt see this !!!


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You'd think, but Bass is a NIMBY mayor


she was fantastic in the documentary, 'burn, MFer, burn'.


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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
What an exciting time for insurance companies and climate change.

Insurance companies are going to just leave the California market as the state legislature won't let them raise premiums.

Hope Luigi doesnt see this !!!



Brian Thompson? Still dead.

"badrogue42069"? Still mad.


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People ask “who tf elects these losers” and here you go. You put a black face on it and there’s millions of white people lined up ready to make any all excuses possible. I would think this would be considered patronizing and kind of annoying at this point, and maybe the ground gained by Trump this go around from the balcks is indicating that they are starting to take it that way.

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Can we pipe them some Lake Michigan water?


what about the Camp Lejune water

:lol: :lol:

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