Way to get back on the horse, Jeff!

This is probably the majority opinion in this country but not something I would necessarily agree with. Videotaped sexuality for public consumption rates really low on the scale of personal time vices (if it can even be ranked in that group) that are questionable for me. I'd rank intoxication much higher on the list and every unmarried teacher I ever knew was out at bars regularly on a weekend.

I understand why it may her activity might be a troubling if you were looking to be in an intimate relationship with a person. I don't understand why it would make a person's ability to educate questionable.

She had sex. We all have sex (except for Frank). She chose to put it on tape. The primary question is, why is that wrong?

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Don't you understand, GD, that sex is the most EVIL thing ANYONE can do in this country, if it's outside the binds of marriage and if it doesn't procreate.

Intoxication happens for a number of reasons, some concerning, some not. I'd guess there could be a lack of respect that would make it hard to teach. I don't know that I'd want my son or daughter at age 13 thinking of it or being taught that it is acceptable behavior. If you had a colleague that did porn how would you view that person? How would that person be viewed by some others that they'd have to deal with? It's not so much that it's on tape, but that it is for public consumption.

Its about role models for kids. You might not think teachers are role models, but they can be. There is also a level of respect that is necessary in a classroom setting which would be completely negated if the students had good reason not to respect the teacher.

Not hormones or anything like that.

It is an entirely different matter if she cannot keep control of a classroom. That actually relates to her abilities as a teacher.

Is she not a role model simply because she had sex on film? Why? If the answer is because you don't want your daughters to go into that industry, I can think of a many jobs I wouldn't want a daughter to do, but the person performing it can still be a role model.

This all gets back to the original point, sex, on its face, is not bad or evil, despite what some may tell you. If you really analyze it, it's a biological function not incredibly dissimilar to eating.

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and sometimes, the two functions intertwine....and its beautiful.


We are a prudish society in many ways gd

It'd be possible she can't keep control because she made the porn.

What are other jobs not porn/stripper related you wouldn't want your daugher to do if she were capable?

I completely agree sex is not bad or evil. It's excellent and a biological function. There perversions of all biological functions and I'd think you are taught, have feelings, and able to learn more about sex than some other biological functions. It's possible I say that as a woman that has differnt biological predisposition.

The reall question is where can I see dolphin's, angus's, and KS's sex tapes and can I send them on to their places of employment and acquaintances?

Lawyer.

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lol.

Gross. The real question is why you, or anybody for that matter, would want to see that?

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Somebody believes those three people have had sex?

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Well KS was probably a catcher in prison, but no need to see it.

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There is no game with their shame.

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How about bar tender/bar maid. It's a perfectly acceptable job. Lot's of young women perform the job. They are not treated particularly well and it's a rough life if it for anything other than side money. I make no moral judgements about them and would not exclude someone from being a role model for holding the position. I wouldn't want my daughter doing it even as a side job.

I use this as one example but there are plenty of others.

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That's odd. You feel the same way about male bartenders?

GD - you feel like a job requiring a person to mix drinks and work for tips is on the same moral/social/acceptance level as a person that gets filmed servicing multiple guys at a time while wearing a ball gag and pizza box?

I doubt it. I appreciate the "judgement free society" that you are envisioning, but it's not the real world. The distraction that this creates is reason enough to not have this person in the classroom.

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No and I said the opposite. It's an example of a job I wouldn't want my daughter to do with no moral judgement just as spaulding requested.

I don't live in a judgement free society. I just don't think consensual adult sex is an appropriate consideration for many jobs, including teacher. As an example, I said that alcoholic overconsumption was much more alarming.

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That's odd.

Yes. I would not want my son to do it with no moral objections. The only way that job works is if it is some interim position. You don't see many keep that kind of existence and lead a happy life. Some due. Not many. I'll play the percentages and advise against it.

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I agree. But what about being a porn star? There's a big difference between "adult consensual sex", which as you stated before all adults, save Frank, participate in - and being paid to be filmed while in that situation and then broadcasting it to the masses.

Surely you see gigantic difference between the two. Pun intended.

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I doubt gd would have the same opinion if she was standing on a street corner a few blocks from the school. That is also "consensual adult sex".

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I don't see it as a big difference as it pertains to a person's ability to teach

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Ok. But it does affect the school's ability to provide a quality educational setting for all of their students, right?

There are lots of things that all people do in every profession that don't directly affect their individual job performance that disqualify them from their positions.

Let's start with the role of POTUS.........and work your way down.

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different situation. Lawbreaking is within the purview of any employment situation.

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So being in porn = prostitution?

Ok.

Where is the line? What if it was a Showtime B movie? What if it was a movie where she showed her tits for like 10 seconds?

Aren't you making a moral argument though? If filming porn is illegal in that town would you then say that she is deserving of any blowback?

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