I gave you one...take a game off. All the players. Destroy the NFL, destroy the perception of entitled athletes by foregoing a game check, destroy the media that covers the game. It would be a scorched earth move. We're not playing until X, Y and Z are enacted. Watch it happen overnight. Challenge the powers that be in the place they hurt the most, the pocketbook.

Yea, that's fine, Id be skeptical of that too. No one is going to admit its about race.

But again, that list of protests that are not cool with people is a good point. Im sorry I didnt just cut her name out of it, because now it's no longer a good point because the person who said it is not perfect.

Not at all my friend. I just don't think that will make the majority of white America sympathetic.

I dont think that would have near the effect you seem to think it would.

I believe that would make fans more pissed at the players than ever.

I don't know what you're surmising, but I'm guessing it's wrong. I don't care about this issue at all. Kneel away. But it should be obvious that a whole lot of people don't like it. Some of them are even black.

Do you think this protest is making America better?

Again, not about mere hypocrisy, it's about hypocrisy that runs completely counter, 90 degrees out of phase, with a person's overall message or brand. Like super-hypocrisy, or something.

Just like with Kaepernick: Lionizing Castro is low-level hypocrisy, but lionizing Castro when you are routinely touting yourself for universal equality and fair treatment from the government is....more than a bit of hypocrisy.

so all it is is a "discussion" to irritate certain people?

why? the spin is the athletes are entitled. The spin is they're disrespecting the flag et al. This would fix both and really send a message to the true powers that be that business as usual will not work.

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Is that's what you take away from this? People are protesting injustice and oppression just to irritate white America?

Do they make the majority of white America happy? No. Are these conversations healthy? Yes.

You just said it would not make white people sympathetic to the cause. So then what is the point of it? I'm asking you.

Not at all my friend. I just don't think that will make the majority of white America sympathetic.

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The point is, no matter what white people wont back a movement that doesn't benefit them.

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Im just gonna keep answering for Nas like Im the king of the world.


The point is, no matter what white people wont back a movement that doesn't benefit them.


This is a separate point from the actual point of the protest.

You just said it would not make white people sympathetic to the cause. So then what is the point of it? I'm asking you.

I just can't conceive of this viewpoint. Is that how YOU feel? You are white. At least I think so.

Is there a voting bloc that does?

Also, white people vote for shit that doesn't actually benefit them literally all the time.

I am white.

I dont feel that way, but I think there are many who do.

I wouldnt limit it to white people. Empathy, true empathy is rare I think.

It's human nature to care more about yourself than the next guy.

It turns into something worse when you are actively trying to suppress or maintain the unjust status quo

Again, not about mere hypocrisy, it's about hypocrisy that runs completely counter, 90 degrees out of phase, with a person's overall message or brand. Like super-hypocrisy, or something.

Just like with Kaepernick: Lionizing Castro is low-level hypocrisy, but lionizing Castro when you are routinely touting yourself for universal equality and fair treatment from the government is....more than a bit of hypocrisy.

Frankly I don't think that this protest has been effective, but ironically Kaepernick's continuing good deeds are getting virtually completely ignored.

there are empathetic people. They're just a small class. Empathy knows no race. There's empathetic people of all colors.

Frankly I don't think that this protest has been effective, but ironically Kaepernick's continuing good deeds are getting virtually completely ignored. Especially from the whatabout sects.

I'm still waiting on that group to revert back to the calls to take politics out of sports. Including teams out for the anthem or the flag farce that the NFL has long since cashed the 12 million in checks from the DOD.

As to supplying answers, that's laughable. Step one toward an answer requires an honest self examination of the of this country's history and current status. And MANY have proven themselves to be generally unwilling and or incapable of such.

You bash Kaepernick for lionizing Castro but have you ever bashed Trump for lionizing Putin? What about his comments regarding Neo Nazis?

The real shame in it all. The guy that starts it and backs it up with his time and money gets left out in the cold and now everyone does it because it's cool to hate on Trump and the message that he was trying to get across is totally lost. Missing the forest for the trees.

The real shame in it all. The guy that starts it and backs it up with his time and money gets left out in the cold and now everyone does it because it's cool to hate on Trump and the message that he was trying to get across is totally lost. Missing the forest for the trees.