Certain members of this board routinely state that Muslims should be banned for no other reason than being Muslim yet somehow that isn't a violation of the first Amendment. Certain people can justify any damn thing. Trust me black people have had to live with it for Centuries.

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I'm speaking specifically about one's religious beliefs and I think you know it. You can't address it because it was valid so you and a few others chose to obfuscate. Not surprising. Just like the point regarding mainstream Republicans. There are a lot of Judge Moore and Stephen King types floating around in that party. Lets talk Keith Ellison though.

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You sound like idiot Hillary supporters in denial about Wikileaks. Buzzfeed has all of Milo's emails; journalists who communicated have already verified them by apologizing for being in touch with him. Bannon and the editorial team at Buzzfeed encouraged him to reach out to supremacist groups and how to push the boundaries (jokes about shekels are okay but no gas changer quips).

But we can't say for sure whether Bannon has any hate in his heart and even if he did he's not relevant

Characterizing vile ideas as "religious beliefs" doesn't make them less vile.

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Don't take it personally.

The only part of the construction that matters to the Right.

Remember when people were worried about Kennedy being POTUS because of his relgion? Man those were the days.

Stephen Miller is still there.

So you are the sole arbiter of what constitutes religion?

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Huh?

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Don't take it personally.

Should the Right also drop the uncodtiitonal love of Israel?

Sure. Let them fight their own wars.

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You implied that Islam isn't a religion? Not the first time either.

I could find things in the Bible that could characterized as vile too yet you do not seem to be bothered by those for some reason.

You also aren't bothered by U.S. bombing of Middle Eastern countries either. Keep pushing the "Muslim hates America" angle however.

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Seriously? I have not had to quarter one soldier ever thanks to the 3rd amendment. That's the part of the Constitution I hold most dear to my heart.

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What kind of a man works for a feminist website called Broadly? A top story on the site right now is The 'Tampon Crusader' Who Pushed to Make Periods a Political Issue

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Soccer 1,2,3
Spanish Honor Society 1,2,3,4
Forensics 1,2,3,4

"Smiles with Nostrils"

"...no Hmong, go find some blacks"

Better to sound like an idiot than to be a pedantic shit 24/7.

So now instead of bringing up the whataboutism regarding Ellison, you just want to talk about the buzzfeed report?

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For what's it's worth Keith Ellison has been supported by numerous Jewish groups in the Minneapolis area.

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Careful or you will be labeled an Anti Semite

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Whoever said earlier that the racism has always been there and it's now just cool to show it hit the nail right on the head.

I implied no such thing. The exact opposite in fact. Granting a set of beliefs the status of "religion" shouldn't have an effect on how we view those beliefs and certainly shouldn't be cover for reprehensible ideas.

It seems like you want to give "religion" some special status and declare yourself the arbiter of what constitutes religion. After all, the KKK claims to be a religious organization. Do you give them a pass too?

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Don't take it personally.

Some American Jewish groups base liberalism as their core identity, not their religion. They are as much a Jew as I am a Catholic at this point - which is not at all.

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Can we get back to LTG saying the First is about religious tolerance?

Israel is a bit of a menace and shares some limited culpability in fucking up that region. I've been critical of them in the past. They are... unpleasant.

BUT

Islam is worse. So much worse. There is really nothing fundamentally whacky about Judiasm, or at least not relative to other world religions. Israel's misbehaving is just a somewhat understandable reflection of their views on the inherent anarchy of global politics. What they do to Palestinians is pretty fucked up, but they aren't perpetrating it for ideological reasons. To me that makes it better, it means it can be reasoned with and coexist a little easier with civilized society.

Islam on the other hand is batshit. Like the whole thing is a fundamentally batshit crazy belief that anyone who isn't completely insane would leave once they achieve the ability to think critically. And unlike other batshit beliefs, like flat earthers or even fundie Christians, the suffering caused by Islam is widespread and ongoing. If you're the kind of person who sees the grief and misery brought on by Islam and still chooses to believe I just cannot for the life of me find the difference between that and the neo Nazi's.

I give a pass to the women. If they leave Islam the men in the family will probably kill them, so it's not really their choice. I feel a bit bad that they are the ones who have to be the public face of the religion with the stupid scarves.

FWIW the Old Testament isn't exaclty a message of peace and love.

I'm not advocating for the Old Testament. And nobody is shy about mocking Christians.

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Don't take it personally.

I'm lost. Milo is a dog whistling nazi uber burrito. We all agree on that correct?

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I don't know if Milo or Uber is shittier

They get a pass for their beliefs. They are free to believe what they want to believe. They are also free to assemble. They can say whatever they want to say. They do not get a pass for their actions. Do you see how that works?

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But the OT is still part of the Bible. We can't just ignore it.

The only whataboutism in this thread was you and America desperately trying to bring in Ellison on some both sides do it rubbish (and Islam is as bad as or worse worse than white supremacy and Naziism anyway! ) and arguing that even if portions of the right's leadership is clearly racist it's probably the left's fault anyway.

The evidence against Bannon is far greater than it is against Ellison.

Sure. SO the Constitution states that it is ok to be intolerant of one because of their religious beliefs? You are the resident Pseudo Constitutionalist on here. Explain to me where religious freedom and religious tolerance are mutually exclusive? Eyerolls and Uh ohs aren't sufficient explanations

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