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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:31 am 
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Pretty much this. And no, ltg, this is NOT censorship.

Management has a thankless job.


I don't complain about the job they do and more specifically i don't try and tell them how to do their job.

When you have guys advocating for people they don't like to banned I'm sorry but that is censorship.
And you saying that guys can't say "ban so and so" is censorship. Pick a lane.

Here is a question for you, and this requires a YES OR NO answer. Has Management ever banned somebody only because they were not well liked?


As stated, Management has a thankless job. They put up with a lot from a lot of different people. I do not agree with the editing of posts, rather I think they should simply be deleted if there is an issue. That said, I have no issues with 99% of the things that The Wiseman have done to and for this place, and I appreciate their efforts.



Do you only ever see what you want to see? I already know the answer to that but i feel compelled to ask anyway


Quote the portion where i blame Management and then i will answer the question.

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I asked you a question, LTG. You can answer it or be your usual chickenshit self, and not answer it.

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I asked you a question, LTG. You can answer it or be your usual chickenshit self, and not answer it.


Your question addresses no point that i have ever made you illiterate fuck. If it did I'd answer it. Ask the guys that bitch about how the board is ran. I'm not one of them you dumb fuck.

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Who has been nominated for a ban outside of America?


FF nominated that the Hawk be banned
Lackey Notes has repeatedly stated that McNown should be banned for wishing him a "most gruesome death". Even stalking Nas to in order to bring it about.

Pittmike "The Sheriff" has reapeatedly stated that I, McNown, and Brick should be whacked.


Lackey Notes has implored them to take a "closer look" at me. We know what that means.


Chas along with he repeatedly do the if you are going to "whack America" then you better look a little closer at this guy routine.

If I look harder I'm sure there have been others recommending that guys be banned. I think that the people who profess to care about the place need to ask themself is this the sort of site that you really want? Banning people simply because they disagree with you? Or even because they annoy you?

Is it something wrong with them or you if thats the case?

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Isn't it interesting what some people on here actually consider to be "fucking up threads". Has anyone ever wondered why that line of thinking is the way it is?


I just assumed it was because you where fucking up threads. Please enlighten me to the psychology of the fucked up thread. Thought is was pretty black and white (no pun intended)


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Isn't it interesting what some people on here actually consider to be "fucking up threads". Has anyone ever wondered why that line of thinking is the way it is?


I just assumed it was because you where fucking up threads. Please enlighten me to the psychology of the fucked up thread. Thought is was pretty black and white (no pun intended)



I said "consider". The selective and subjective way the term is used is what I'm addressing. Whats fucked up to some isn't necessarily fucked up for others. Thats the point.

I don't believe I have ever used the term. If its something i don't care to read i don't read it. Some people speak of "fucked up threads" as if its some sort of impending apocalypse. Its a message board when its all said and done.

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So yeah, can we take it easy on the guys who run and pay for the board?

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So yeah, can we take it easy on the guys who run and pay for the board?



Name names so you can make it easier for guys like Frank.

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Who has been nominated for a ban outside of America?


FF nominated that the Hawk be banned
Lackey Notes has repeatedly stated that McNown should be banned for wishing him a "most gruesome death". Even stalking Nas to in order to bring it about.

Pittmike "The Sheriff" has reapeatedly stated that I, McNown, and Brick should be whacked.


Lackey Notes has implored them to take a "closer look" at me. We know what that means.


Chas along with he repeatedly do the if you are going to "whack America" then you better look a little closer at this guy routine.

If I look harder I'm sure there have been others recommending that guys be banned. I think that the people who profess to care about the place need to ask themself is this the sort of site that you really want? Banning people simply because they disagree with you? Or even because they annoy you?

Is it something wrong with them or you if thats the case?

#1 pittmike can do whatever he wants

#2 I think some of that is just guys taking shots at each other but how knows.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:11 am 
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So yeah, can we take it easy on the guys who run and pay for the board?


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So yeah, can we take it easy on the guys who run and pay for the board?

We can. I will.

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So yeah, can we take it easy on the guys who run and pay for the board?

We can. I will.


I suppose some can say that the owners/moderators can also help to ease things up around here. I am only spit balling and saying this generically but if they didn't take part in multing or trolling for a variety of reasons they wouldn't really be targeted or fought with as much.

I have no evidence they do this but if they create turmoil trolling for more hits for instance then who is to blame when there is turmoil?

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I don't like the board right now. I haven't for a while due to all the pissing matches. It seems to me that MANY come here just to bitch...and not about sports or sports radio. Not that anyone has noticed, but I come here less and less because of that.

For all of bigfan's faults and craziness running the board, it was a more enjoyable experience then....the last few months of his reign, notwithstanding.

There is an inherent problem with having three bosses as opposed to one, which has been evidenced here recently. Companies are reflections of ownership and management and this place has a D- in my grade book.

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I have no evidence they do this
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I don't like the board right now. I haven't for a while due to all the pissing matches. It seems to me that MANY come here just to bitch...and not about sports or sports radio. Not that anyone has noticed, but I come here less and less because of that.

For all of bigfan's faults and craziness running the board, it was a more enjoyable experience then....the last few months of his reign, notwithstanding.

There is an inherent problem with having three bosses as opposed to one, which has been evidenced here recently. Companies are reflections of ownership and management and this place has a D- in my grade book.

Like LTG and JLN? Baby Mchalfwit?

Name names damnit :lol:

I mean that's who comes to mind,but yea, in general this place blows now.

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doug - evergreen park wrote:
I don't like the board right now. I haven't for a while due to all the pissing matches. It seems to me that MANY come here just to bitch...and not about sports or sports radio. Not that anyone has noticed, but I come here less and less because of that.
You've been coming here less since at least 2014 though so I'm not sure it is a new problem for you. You have roughly 2,500 total posts since the start of 2014.

This thread also isn't really about those battles. The politics section being somewhat hidden has helped keep some of that away.

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I honestly haven't the slightest idea what any of you are bitching about. What is it you would like the moderators to do differently? They don't make any money off this. Are you expecting them to cruise the board deleting posts or banning people you don't like? We are all hated by someone. Should we all be banned?

If you think the content of the board sucks, it's the posters on the board. Moderators aren't generating the content.

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I came for the sports talk but stayed for the spurious jurisprudence.

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This is why Doug is unhappy.

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They don't make any money off this.

This place is a goldmine, just ask HawaiiYou.

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I don't like the board right now. I haven't for a while due to all the pissing matches. It seems to me that MANY come here just to bitch...and not about sports or sports radio. Not that anyone has noticed, but I come here less and less because of that.

For all of bigfan's faults and craziness running the board, it was a more enjoyable experience then....the last few months of his reign, notwithstanding.

There is an inherent problem with having three bosses as opposed to one, which has been evidenced here recently. Companies are reflections of ownership and management and this place has a D- in my grade book.

Like LTG and JLN? Baby Mchalfwit?

Name names damnit :lol:

I say this not to argue with you either Free Ajent. Moreso pertains to the constantly complaining crew

I mean that's who comes to mind,but yea, in general this place blows now.


This is for the complaining crew Free Ajent. You aren't really one of them

i agree that I contribute to it somewhat. But I will also add this. This place has always not worked for some people. You had a group of guys that tried to start their own site for whatever reason. When I first began posting regularly you had a cabal of people that actively attempted to be more boss than the guy that paid for the site. There are always going to be people that are unhappy for one reason or another.

When the certain subset of guys that constantly railed against BigFan were doing there "thing" did it necessarily make it a better place? Doubt it but people here largely (and still) overlooked it. Why? because they were "their" guys. Did it stop me from posting? Nah because I mostly ignored it. Is there any doubt that a number of posters who felt like they had to choose side left? You bet there were.


How many people do you honestly believe either left or stopped posting as much because of the constant bullshit that certain "caretakers" types pulled with Bigfan? 15-20 I would venture to guess.

For all of the evil Bigfan talk there are some that sided with him and rather than go back and forth about it they either left or stopped posting as much. Interesting and ironically those that constantly complain about how things are going or "running guys off" fail to ever mention this however. It is why I constantly throw the word "hypocrite" out because that is exactly what they are.

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There has always been bitching and pissing matches.

I get the feeling the characters doing most of the arguing now are the reason MANY are complaining.

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I honestly haven't the slightest idea what any of you are bitching about. What is it you would like the moderators to do differently? They don't make any money off this. Are you expecting them to cruise the board deleting posts or banning people you don't like? We are all hated by someone. Should we all be banned?

If you think the content of the board sucks, it's the posters on the board. Moderators aren't generating the content.

I can assure you all 3 moderators generate content on this board. Over 5% of all existing posts were created by one of the 3 moderators, not including Management or any deleted posts from HOVA, for example.

Yes, that certainly isn't a majority of the content. But moderators always control a large portion of content and forums always take on the personality of their admin / admins. Let's not beat around the bush...at least two of the three admins LOVE drama. And probably all three. It is not surprising that a soap opera atmosphere seems to have been fostered. But this is really no different than bigfan's era either.

I don't mind the current state of the board. I don't mind previous states of the board. I'd do things a little differently, but I'm only one person. Having three admins, with sometimes conflicting views, makes things difficult.

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They don't make any money off this.

This place is a goldmine, just ask HawaiiYou.


:lol:

I was actually going to be a dick and say that the mods shouldn't complain about anything with the money they make off this place.

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This is for the complaining crew Free Ajent. You aren't really one of them


For me, it's pretty simple when it comes to perusing threads around here and it's been like this since I found this fucking hell hole. If I don't care for what the topic is about or I see a couple posters going back and forth on and on and on I just pass over it and find something else or create my own shit. Sure it gets tiresome and I have to waste a few seconds of my life (I've wasted it on dumber shit) but it's not going to ruin my day or bother me in anyway.

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I honestly haven't the slightest idea what any of you are bitching about. What is it you would like the moderators to do differently? They don't make any money off this. Are you expecting them to cruise the board deleting posts or banning people you don't like? We are all hated by someone. Should we all be banned?

If you think the content of the board sucks, it's the posters on the board. Moderators aren't generating the content.

I can assure you all 3 moderators generate content on this board. Over 5% of all existing posts were created by one of the 3 moderators, not including Management or any deleted posts from HOVA, for example.

Yes, that certainly isn't a majority of the content. But moderators always control a large portion of content and forums always take on the personality of their admin / admins. Let's not beat around the bush...at least two of the three admins LOVE drama. And probably all three. It is not surprising that a soap opera atmosphere seems to have been fostered. But this is really no different than bigfan's era either.

I don't mind the current state of the board. I don't mind previous states of the board. I'd do things a little differently, but I'm only one person. Having three admins, with sometimes conflicting views, makes things difficult.


Okay, I guess. Whatever the admins disagree on, it hasn't affected my posting in the slightest unless I'm unaware of something. People referring to bigfan's board vs this board have lost me. This board is essentially the same as bigfan's board. If there is really editing of posts, that's bullshit. It's sneaky, and it shouldn't happen. But by and large, I don't think that's happening. In general, we are all able to interact with each other in pretty much any manner we want with some extreme exceptions.

FWIW, I didn't really have an issue with how bigfan ran the board (generally). My issues with him were more personal, especially when I was banned for basically no reason for a year. But I'm not gonna piss on his grave. More or less, he ran the board fine. Running this board shouldn't be a job - it should just be someone to turn the lights on and open the doors.

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My issues with him were more personal, especially when I was banned for basically no reason for a year.

You and me both

You and me both, buddy :lol:

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