The message was being ignored long before the president jumped into it again.

The message was being ignored long before the president jumped into it again.

It is quotes like this one where people wonder about some of the things you say. when someone is discussing something it is not always necessary to have another opinion at all on something else. In this case you get on JLN about Castro but not corresponding Trump criticism.

Why is that? If I am talking to you about Castro why do I have to weigh in on anything else at all?

JLN don't forget about me.

I'm sure RPB picked up on the personal attack. As far as Kaepernicks Castro comment if it were factually correct them what difference does it make?

I notice that instead of discussing Castro or Kaepernick's support you are questioning the poster's credentials.

JLN can think Trump is Superman (different debate), it changes NOTHING about Kaepernick or his support of Castro.


If you are characterizing pittmike's post as a personal attack then holy shit...Im speechless.

Again, not about mere hypocrisy, it's about hypocrisy that runs completely counter, 90 degrees out of phase, with a person's overall message or brand. Like super-hypocrisy, or something.

Just like with Kaepernick: Lionizing Castro is low-level hypocrisy, but lionizing Castro when you are routinely touting yourself for universal equality and fair treatment from the government is....more than a bit of hypocrisy.

You're not but you are. The majority of white America has a right to feel however they want to feel. Reality is there will NEVER be a cause that doesn't involve them that they will be supportive of. The complaints about every protest is just bullshit in the end.

This helps Trump. MANY people believe that our country has lost its identity.

I think there is some truth to their gripe. People aren't really proud to be an American anymore.

Clearly no one has the pulse of White America better than me. White America, I could be one of your kids...

The use of the term lionizing is an exaggeration too. Kaepernick if I'm going to infer probably originally wore the T-shirt with regards to Castro the revolutionary and not Castro the Dictator. He also alluded to Malcolm X which leads me to believe that he has a thing for revolutionary types. Many people that fashion themselves as revolutionaries have taken to that sort of garb. When pressed he referenced the education system. If I had to fathom a response that would be it.

Goodell is getting pressure from the owners to end it since ratings, and in turn, profits are dropping. Goodell was quick to criticize Trump, but as much of a dumb ass Trump is, he was smart in his approach of changing the narrative of the protests against America. This whole kneeling went from Kap protesting police brutality and other players taking up the same mantra, to the NFL owners using it to promote "unity" to Trump turning it by saying protesting is against America. While I wasn't a fan of the protesting, I knew what the point of it was.

Goodell is a stooge. He attacked Trump when it was convenient, and all the owners were kneeling for unity. Now that people the message has been muddled due to a multitude of reasons and owners ultimately caring about the bottom line, Goodell has to do what he can to get it to stop, or else he needs to worry about his own job.

The Commish trying to put a stop to it.

I think the players also had a hand in diluting the message of Kaepernick's original protest. It has expanded from police brutality against black Americans, to racial inequality in America, to anti-Trump, to now systemic oppression that isn't really systemic oppression.

When there are so many voices saying "THIS is what we're protesting", and the "this" part is always kinda different and sometimes wildly divergent, it makes it easier for someone to whisper "they're really protesting THIS" in the ears of onlookers.

I don't think using terms like "white America" or "black America" is particularly helpful though. It assumes that all voices are the same based on skin color. And of course skin color plays a part in our experiences, but countless other things do too.

Maybe you misunderstood what I meant when I said I can understand a black American feeling different about the flag than a white person. I've had this conversation with a white guy who I consider a racist and one of his go-to lines is that "Michelle Obama doesn't love America like I do". My answer is always that her experiences are different than his. You have to be able to at least imagine what it's like to walk in the other guy's shoes.

That's my problem with the latest Coates article. I don't begrudge him his feelings. He just doesn't supply any answers. And beyond that, he's personally doing very well. Much better than most white people I know. I don't think it's right to say that Coates or Marc Lamont Hill are "blacker" than Thomas Sowell or Larry Elder. They all have different viewpoints and happen to be black.

Haha. Sorry, but this cracked me up. Hitler was a revolutionary as well. I suppose if I wear a Hitler shirt during his upstart revolutionary days versus his dictator days, then I can justify it being ok.