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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
These situations seem to happen one after the other. http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/07/06/police-officer-involved-shooting-in-falcon-heights/ |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
Let me say this guy should not have declared his License to Carry before he reached for his wallet. However, he should not have been shot ImO. Especially with a girlfriend and child in the car. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
He absolutely should have told them he has a conceal/carry permit. With a normal officer, that sets a rapport of honesty and tends to put them a little less on edge. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
Jbi11s wrote: Let me say this guy should not have declared his License to Carry before he reached for his wallet. However, he should not have been shot ImO. Especially with a girlfriend and child in the car. Controversial stance |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
Thinking about the past before cell phones and cameras everywhere makes me shudder |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:25 am ] |
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I saw a bunch of cops shootin' the breeze at the donut shop this morning! /Teinowitz |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
The full ~ 10 minutes of video ... obviously NSFW/L ... all things considered that broad holds her shit together awfully well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ7DhbRUvNI One might take particular note at the moment when the little girl tries to calm her mother by saying 'it's okay momma I'm here with you' or something like that. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
rogers park bryan wrote: Jbi11s wrote: Let me say this guy should not have declared his License to Carry before he reached for his wallet. However, he should not have been shot ImO. Especially with a girlfriend and child in the car. Controversial stance 
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| Author: | billypootons [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
Seriously, that is literally one of the most fucked up videos I've seen. Wtf |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
rogers park bryan wrote: Thinking about the past before cell phones and cameras everywhere makes me shudder My inherent distrust of government and fervent belief in the ideals of the U.S. Constitution get affirmed when I see these videos. And I agree that you have to wonder about all the stuff that happens off camera or with Federal Government spying. I just don't trust government employees to be good guys all the time. It is why we have to have due process and a strong court system to check the power of the executive branch. It is also why I leaned towards Snowden and his disclosures about government bad behavior. |
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| Author: | Phil McCracken [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
It's just fucking sad that this has to be a rolling thread |
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| Author: | Northside_Dan [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
Not all of these police shootings are black and white (no pun intended). There have been some where I can certainly understand why the police officers would feel threatened etc. Important to remember they are not all the same even though they will and have been lumped together. That said, The most recent one in Minnesota is as cut and dry as it gets =. Cop should be arrested and brought up on Murder 1 charges. Anything less would be a gross injustice. |
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| Author: | Sir Loin Of Beef [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
Jbi11s wrote: These situations seem to happen one after the other. http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/07/06/police-officer-involved-shooting-in-falcon-heights/ If this thread keeps going eventually we will all be dead. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
Phil McCracken wrote: It's just fucking sad that this has to be a rolling thread Yes, very sad. But you read about all the shootings in the Tribune after a weekend, and you see how pervasive gun violence is across society. I don't know if you saw that Dollar Store shooting where the customer shot the clerk who caught him stealing because, "He didn't want to go to jail."? Well, guess what, now you're definitely going to jail. The law enforcement shootings are so much worse because these are the folks paid to protect us. The idea that a cop would pull a gun and shoot a guy reaching for his ID is warped. In the cop's head, is it a realistic possibility that the victim would have pulled out a gun instead and shot the cop? I mean it's all messed up. The entire social contract breaks down. You get pulled over for a broken tail light and end up dead. Everyone loses (Or should I say MANY lose). |
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| Author: | Phil McCracken [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
denisdman wrote: Phil McCracken wrote: It's just fucking sad that this has to be a rolling thread Yes, very sad. But you read about all the shootings in the Tribune after a weekend, and you see how pervasive gun violence is across society. I don't know if you saw that Dollar Store shooting where the customer shot the clerk who caught him stealing because, "He didn't want to go to jail."? Well, guess what, now you're definitely going to jail. The law enforcement shootings are so much worse because these are the folks paid to protect us. The idea that a cop would pull a gun and shoot a guy reaching for his ID is warped. In the cop's head, is it a realistic possibility that the victim would have pulled out a gun instead and shot the cop? I mean it's all messed up. The entire social contract breaks down. You get pulled over for a broken tail light and end up dead. Everyone loses (Or should I say MANY lose). Yeah the violence amongst people in the community is bad and tough to fix, but the stuff with the cops is beyond the pale they are sworn to protect and serve and they have a power trip so strong that they end up executing people. There has to be a way to rein this shit in. At least the cameras and cell phones and stuff are finally bringing all of it to light as messed up as it is. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
Sir Loin Of Beef wrote: Jbi11s wrote: These situations seem to happen one after the other. http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/07/06/police-officer-involved-shooting-in-falcon-heights/ If this thread keeps going eventually we will all be dead. Finally something positive to come out of this. Speaking of positive, Phil's back! 
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| Author: | RFDC [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
The Minn video is bad. Is there any video before or during the shooting? The only one I have seen starts right after. |
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| Author: | billypootons [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
RFDC wrote: The Minn video is bad. Is there any video before or during the shooting? The only one I have seen starts right after. the new baton rouge video isnt much better |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
RFDC wrote: The Minn video is bad. Is there any video before or during the shooting? The only one I have seen starts right after. I doubt it. |
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| Author: | Phil McCracken [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
Don Tiny wrote: Sir Loin Of Beef wrote: Jbi11s wrote: These situations seem to happen one after the other. http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/07/06/police-officer-involved-shooting-in-falcon-heights/ If this thread keeps going eventually we will all be dead. Finally something positive to come out of this. Speaking of positive, Phil's back! Me being back is as positive as Charlie Sheen's AIDS test DT |
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| Author: | Brick [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
I don't know if we just didn't know about it or what but it seems like the general opinion of the police is now that the life of one police officer is worth more than the lives of one hundred suspects. Most of these deaths the suspect is putting up such a weak fight if not completely neutralized that the officer is in virtually no danger. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
Phil McCracken wrote: Don Tiny wrote: Sir Loin Of Beef wrote: Jbi11s wrote: These situations seem to happen one after the other. http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/07/06/police-officer-involved-shooting-in-falcon-heights/ If this thread keeps going eventually we will all be dead. Finally something positive to come out of this. Speaking of positive, Phil's back! Me being back is as positive as Charlie Sheen's AIDS test DT |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: I don't know if we just didn't know about it or what but it seems like the general opinion of the police is now that the life of one police officer is worth more than the lives of one hundred suspects. Most of these deaths the suspect is putting up such a weak fight if not completely neutralized that the officer is in virtually no danger. There is a chance they may be so they need to protect themselves. |
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| Author: | Big Chicagoan [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
Here's another one. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html Maybe its time to discuss arming police officers with only non-deadly weapons. Just having special units (SWAT) which are armed for special circumstances. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
A lot of people are up in arms on my facebook feed the cops didn't kill this guy, only shot him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_FkzbTf-KM |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
There will be a call to federalize law enforcement. |
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| Author: | Baby McNown [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
Where's that fucktwit PittMike to defend this guys right to carry and be beyond pissed about this shooting? |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
Terry's Peeps wrote: There will be a call to federalize law enforcement. Been tried in Mexico, and that ain't working well either. You end up having the army doing civil law enforcement. They can't even nationalize education. No way the locals let the Feds handle law enforcement. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
Baby McNown wrote: Where's that fucktwit PittMike to defend this guys right to carry and be beyond pissed about this shooting? Why the anger man? Isn't that the entire reason our society has crap like this happen? |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Police Shootings (Rolling Thread) |
denisdman wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: There will be a call to federalize law enforcement. Been tried in Mexico, and that ain't working well either. You end up having the army doing civil law enforcement. They can't even nationalize education. No way the locals let the Feds handle law enforcement. I'm not entirely clear on whether it's even copacetic Constitutionally speaking. Plus, look at federalized security services like the TSA ... I mean, it doesn't get more blue-ribbon than that outfit of fuckwits and ne'er-do-wells ... the WalMart Greeters of the security industry. |
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