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1. Abraham Lincoln
2. George Washington
3. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
4. Teddy Roosevelt
5. Dwight Eisenhower
6. Harry Truman
7. Thomas Jefferson
8. John F. Kennedy
9. Ronald Reagan
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Woodrow Wilson
12. Barack Obama
13. James Monroe
14. James Polk
15. Bill Clinton
16. William McKinley
17. James Madison
18. Andrew Jackson
19. John Adams
20. George H.W. Bush
21. John Q. Adams
22. Ulysses Grant
23. Grover Cleveland
24. William Taft
25. Gerald Ford
26. Jimmy Carter
27. Calvin Coolidge
28. Richard Nixon
29. James Garfield
30. Benjamin Harrison
31. Zachary Taylor
32. Rutherford Hayes
33. George W. Bush
34. Martin Van Buren
35. Chester Arthur
36. Herbert Hoover
37. Millard Fillmore
38. William Harrison
39. John Tyler
40. Warren Harding
41. Franklin Pierce
42. Andrew Johnson
43. James Buchanan


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Hottest Presidents?

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Andrew Johnson should be last on every list and George Washington should always be #1. The Roosevelts should be 2 and 3. Everything else is debatable.

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I don't know, people on Twitter are telling me that Obama is a Muslim terrorist who did noting at all during his presidency but make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Maybe 13th?

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JFK is always laughably overrated in these. Fuckin' boomers

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JFK is always laughably overrated in these. Fuckin' boomers


It's the X'er daddy issues. They loved smooth talkers like JFK and Reagan.

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Millard Fillmore is the worst president, in that his was once the only name I could not remember, thereby costing me a bar bet.

I remember you now, Millard Fillmore. My fiery hatred has forever burnished your name in my mind.

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I think Rutherford Hayes did pretty well given the circumstances he was thrust into. Not all of us get to be President for 12 years to cheat our way to the top.

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JFK is always laughably overrated in these. Fuckin' boomers

Kennedy was not a better president than his successor.

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Chester A. Arthur was a criminally underrated president.

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JFK is always laughably overrated in these. Fuckin' boomers

Kennedy was not a better president than his successor.


Agreed.

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JFK is always laughably overrated in these. Fuckin' boomers

Bill Kurtis & the people who do Decades have such a fucking hard-on for him.


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The only problems with Ike were (a) he recognized Nixon for what he was and used him for that purpose, and (b) he let Churchill cajole him into fucking with Iran so BP & Aramco could keep making their oil money. One wonders what history might look like if Ike had stuck to his guns and said 'no' as a final answer.

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Lincoln getting too much love. Sad!

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JFK is always laughably overrated in these. Fuckin' boomers

Kennedy was not a better president than his successor.


If Lyndon were president in 1962 we would not be having this conversation. Or any conversations.

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Lincoln getting too much love. Sad!


The slave-owning oligarch first president is better than Lincoln? That take is sad.

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Lincoln getting too much love. Sad!


The slave-owning oligarch first president is better than Lincoln? That take is sad.


Yes and it really isn't even close.

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Teddy is fourth and still underrated.

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Lincoln getting too much love. Sad!


The slave-owning oligarch first president is better than Lincoln? That take is sad.


Yes and it really isn't even close.


Lincoln was better in nearly every way including ending the legacy that Washington left behind that threatened to destroy the county. And he signed legislation establishing land grant universities. Washington's biggest contribution was walking away.

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Honestly. A total disaster.

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Lincoln getting too much love. Sad!


The slave-owning oligarch first president is better than Lincoln? That take is sad.


Yes and it really isn't even close.


Nas, I know you are stashing some contrarian opinion about Lincoln, but I really don't see how there's an argument that he is overrated. Whether what he did was for political reasons or not, he accomplished great things for the country.

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Lincoln getting too much love. Sad!


The slave-owning oligarch first president is better than Lincoln? That take is sad.


Yes and it really isn't even close.


Nas, I know you are stashing some contrarian opinion about Lincoln, but I really don't see how there's an argument that he is overrated. Whether what he did was for political reasons or not, he accomplished great things for the country.


I don't understand why you dismiss the fact that he didn't do it because of his strong conviction about how WRONG slavery was. He just wanted to weaken the south. The fact that it was political is very important when discussing the character of the man and ranking him as a president. MANY pretend that he cared about black America when he didn't. Lincoln wanted to send blacks back to Africa.

Beyond that his power grabs and disregard of the constitution makes President Trump's dick hard.

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Lincoln getting too much love. Sad!


The slave-owning oligarch first president is better than Lincoln? That take is sad.


Yes and it really isn't even close.


Nas, I know you are stashing some contrarian opinion about Lincoln, but I really don't see how there's an argument that he is overrated. Whether what he did was for political reasons or not, he accomplished great things for the country.


I don't understand why you dismiss the fact that he didn't do it because of his strong conviction about how WRONG slavery was. He just wanted to weaken the south. The fact that it was political is very important when discussing the character of the man and ranking him as a president. MANY pretend that he cared about black America when he didn't. Lincoln wanted to send blacks back to Africa.

Beyond that his power grabs and disregard of the constitution makes President Trump's dick hard.


Yeah, but he was probably still more progressive than most at that time. Obviously, not being 100% against slavery or equality was wrong, but I think you do have to take into account the context of the era in which he lived. Societal norms are hard things to overcome. Your boy George H.W. probably would have been pro-slavery if he'd lived in that time period.

Slavery, which was so obviously horrible in hindsight, was something that would never have been easily overcome given how it basically drove the economy of the South. For an issue like that which has no guarantee of ever being banished, I think the ends justify the means. If Lincoln hadn't overreached, slavery might not have ended. Now that I think of it, maybe we should be praising Trump. :wink:

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
Lincoln getting too much love. Sad!


The slave-owning oligarch first president is better than Lincoln? That take is sad.


Yes and it really isn't even close.


Nas, I know you are stashing some contrarian opinion about Lincoln, but I really don't see how there's an argument that he is overrated. Whether what he did was for political reasons or not, he accomplished great things for the country.


I don't understand why you dismiss the fact that he didn't do it because of his strong conviction about how WRONG slavery was. He just wanted to weaken the south. The fact that it was political is very important when discussing the character of the man and ranking him as a president. MANY pretend that he cared about black America when he didn't. Lincoln wanted to send blacks back to Africa.

Beyond that his power grabs and disregard of the constitution makes President Trump's dick hard.


The man ended slavery, and he's to be blamed for not being progressive enough by today's standards? That's harsh. Lincoln was literally a martyr for black rights. And his "power grab" was in response to half the country rebelling over his winning of a fair election. What should he have done? Let the country be divided, and have a slave economy state in collusion with European powers on this continent? Winning that war ended up saving many lives in the long run, many of them black.

And as for moving slaves back to Africa, it was an idea that seemed humanitarian at the time. There were black leaders that supported it.

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