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I know Kirkwood is a prototype beta, but is he seriously giving Ogie shit for not planning on voluntarily giving up his wallet and phone in the event of a mugging? Goddamn. The fuck is this country coming to?

FavreFan wrote:

Correct. Ogie is military trained. Great. Now what about the other CCW wackos like a Panther and his ilk who believe they're Batman because they have a license.

I won't be convinced a wallet or phone is worth pulling a gun.

Kirkwood wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

"You don't have standing to defend yourself from armed/violent robbery" :lol:

Come on, man.

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

"You don't have standing to defend yourself from armed/violent robbery" :lol:

Come on, man.

I never said it should be illegal or disallowed. I simply commented I think it's terrible that there is growing faction of paranoid gun owners scared of being the victims of an armed robbery.

Their solution to any danger is...need gun.

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

"You don't have standing to defend yourself from armed/violent robbery" :lol:

Come on, man.

I never said it should be illegal or disallowed. I simply commented I think it's terrible that there is growing faction of paranoid gun owners scared of their own shadow.

Their solution to any danger is...need gun.

Good thing I only live in states where I have my CCW. I have 17 9x19 parabellum rounds in my Glock at all times.

I'm 99% sure I'll never use it let alone take it out of the holster, but it's good to have.

If there is a robbery on a train you would want a passenger to pull a gun and possibly shoot at the criminals?

Seem like a total recipe for disaster. What if he misses? What if the bullet passes through? Is he then liable if he hits another passenger in the closed quarters of a train car? And what if the muggers start shooting back?

Best case scenario is that the pulls the gun, and the guy runs away. But there is no where to run on the train. It seems more likely that something terrible would happen. Worse than losing a phone.

WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:

No, you don't understand. The shooter was scared/threatened! Plus he had $50 bucks in his wallet.

This reminds me of a "Louie" episode back in the day.

Louis is in a diner with his date, and some teenage kid comes up and punks him. Rather than fighting back, he does the right thing and just sits there without causing violence or fighting.

After the kid leaves, his date is like, "I'm sorry. I know you just did the right, mature thing, but I've never been so turned off before." Then she gets up and leaves.

I wouldn't pull a gun on the guy, of course... but I'd at least fight back. If I didn't, I'd feel like a baby back bitch afterward.

Kirkwood wrote:

WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:

No, you don't understand. The shooter was scared/threatened! Plus he had $50 bucks in his wallet.

"If your property isn't as valuable as others, you have less of a right to hold onto it!" :lol:

Douchebag wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

:lol:

Yep have to protect the minors right to privacy

“We are in the process of pulling all surveillance video, and we will share with Oakland police, Oakland Unified School District and Oakland Housing Authority to see if they can help identify the minors,” Trost said. “We have had success with sharing images of juveniles with this group and identifying and making arrests in the past.”The images cannot be shared publicly, she said, because the attackers appear to be minors.

Do you understand why names of minors are not released or are you just doing a bit?

You worried about the cops yanking you out of class or something?

The board already has a BRick . You should aspire to be better but then again , you can't .

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

"You don't have standing to defend yourself from armed/violent robbery" :lol:

Come on, man.

Is Bub Rub still patrolling the streets?

Kirkwood wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

"You don't have standing to defend yourself from armed/violent robbery" :lol:

Come on, man.

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

"You don't have standing to defend yourself from armed/violent robbery" :lol:

Come on, man.

What are those reasonable limits you were referring to earlier in this thread?

SpiralStairs wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

"You don't have standing to defend yourself from armed/violent robbery" :lol:

Come on, man.

What are those reasonable limits you were referring to earlier in this thread?

You know exactly what I meant by "reasonable".

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

SpiralStairs wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

"You don't have standing to defend yourself from armed/violent robbery" :lol:

Come on, man.

What are those reasonable limits you were referring to earlier in this thread?

You know exactly what I meant by "reasonable".

I really don't.

Author:	FavreFan [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:09 pm ]
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I know Kirkwood is a prototype beta, but is he seriously giving Ogie shit for not planning on voluntarily giving up his wallet and phone in the event of a mugging? Goddamn. The fuck is this country coming to?

Author:	pittmike [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:11 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: I know Kirkwood is a prototype beta, but is he seriously giving Ogie shit for not planning on voluntarily giving up his wallet and phone in the event of a mugging? Goddamn. The fuck is this country coming to? You know the answer to your question.

Author:	leashyourkids [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:12 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: I know Kirkwood is a prototype beta, but is he seriously giving Ogie shit for not planning on voluntarily giving up his wallet and phone in the event of a mugging? Goddamn. The fuck is this country coming to? Agreed. This is why I defended that Mixon guy. That chick was coming for his wallet.

Author:	Kirkwood [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:17 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: I know Kirkwood is a prototype beta, but is he seriously giving Ogie shit for not planning on voluntarily giving up his wallet and phone in the event of a mugging? Goddamn. The fuck is this country coming to? Correct. Ogie is military trained. Great. Now what about the other CCW wackos like a Panther and his ilk who believe they're Batman because they have a license. I won't be convinced a wallet or phone is worth pulling a gun.

Author:	Juice's Lecture Notes [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:22 pm ]
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Kirkwood wrote: FavreFan wrote: I know Kirkwood is a prototype beta, but is he seriously giving Ogie shit for not planning on voluntarily giving up his wallet and phone in the event of a mugging? Goddamn. The fuck is this country coming to? Correct. Ogie is military trained. Great. Now what about the other CCW wackos like a Panther and his ilk who believe they're Batman because they have a license. I won't be convinced a wallet or phone is worth pulling a gun. "You don't have standing to defend yourself from armed/violent robbery" Come on, man.

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Author:	Kirkwood [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:29 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Kirkwood wrote: FavreFan wrote: I know Kirkwood is a prototype beta, but is he seriously giving Ogie shit for not planning on voluntarily giving up his wallet and phone in the event of a mugging? Goddamn. The fuck is this country coming to? Correct. Ogie is military trained. Great. Now what about the other CCW wackos like a Panther and his ilk who believe they're Batman because they have a license. I won't be convinced a wallet or phone is worth pulling a gun. "You don't have standing to defend yourself from armed/violent robbery" Come on, man. I never said it should be illegal or disallowed. I simply commented I think it's terrible that there is growing faction of paranoid gun owners scared of their own shadow. Their solution to any danger is...need gun.

Author:	shakes [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:30 pm ]
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Kirkwood wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Kirkwood wrote: FavreFan wrote: I know Kirkwood is a prototype beta, but is he seriously giving Ogie shit for not planning on voluntarily giving up his wallet and phone in the event of a mugging? Goddamn. The fuck is this country coming to? Correct. Ogie is military trained. Great. Now what about the other CCW wackos like a Panther and his ilk who believe they're Batman because they have a license. I won't be convinced a wallet or phone is worth pulling a gun. "You don't have standing to defend yourself from armed/violent robbery" Come on, man. I never said it should be illegal or disallowed. I simply commented I think it's terrible that there is growing faction of paranoid gun owners scared of being the victims of an armed robbery. Their solution to any danger is...need gun. Fixed this for you.

Author:	hnd [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:31 pm ]
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i spent a weekend in the San Fransisco area once. like 4 days. regarding this story: Good.

Author:	FavreFan [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:33 pm ]
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Kirkwood wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Kirkwood wrote: FavreFan wrote: I know Kirkwood is a prototype beta, but is he seriously giving Ogie shit for not planning on voluntarily giving up his wallet and phone in the event of a mugging? Goddamn. The fuck is this country coming to? Correct. Ogie is military trained. Great. Now what about the other CCW wackos like a Panther and his ilk who believe they're Batman because they have a license. I won't be convinced a wallet or phone is worth pulling a gun. "You don't have standing to defend yourself from armed/violent robbery" Come on, man. I never said it should be illegal or disallowed. I simply commented I think it's terrible that there is growing faction of paranoid gun owners scared of their own shadow. Their solution to any danger is...need gun. Fear causes Ogie to own a gun. Fear causes you to give up your possessions to anyone who wants them without a fight. Fear is a great motivator.

Author:	312player [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:33 pm ]
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote: Good thing I only live in states where I have my CCW. I have 17 9x19 parabellum rounds in my Glock at all times. I'm 99% sure I'll never use it let alone take it out of the holster, but it's good to have. You're doing it all wrong, just carry a spray bottle of bleech, much more deadly.

Author:	WaitingforRuffcorn [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:38 pm ]
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If there is a robbery on a train you would want a passenger to pull a gun and possibly shoot at the criminals? Seem like a total recipe for disaster. What if he misses? What if the bullet passes through? Is he then liable if he hits another passenger in the closed quarters of a train car? And what if the muggers start shooting back? Best case scenario is that the pulls the gun, and the guy runs away. But there is no where to run on the train. It seems more likely that something terrible would happen. Worse than losing a phone.

Author:	Kirkwood [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:40 pm ]
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: If there is a robbery on a train you would want a passenger to pull a gun and possibly shoot at the criminals? Seem like a total recipe for disaster. What if he misses? What if the bullet passes through? Is he then liable if he hits another passenger in the closed quarters of a train car? And what if the muggers start shooting back? Best case scenario is that the pulls the gun, and the guy runs away. But there is no where to run on the train. It seems more likely that something terrible would happen. Worse than losing a phone. No, you don't understand. The shooter was scared/threatened! Plus he had $50 bucks in his wallet.

Author:	leashyourkids [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:43 pm ]
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This reminds me of a "Louie" episode back in the day. Louis is in a diner with his date, and some teenage kid comes up and punks him. Rather than fighting back, he does the right thing and just sits there without causing violence or fighting. After the kid leaves, his date is like, "I'm sorry. I know you just did the right, mature thing, but I've never been so turned off before." Then she gets up and leaves. I wouldn't pull a gun on the guy, of course... but I'd at least fight back. If I didn't, I'd feel like a baby back bitch afterward.

Author:	Kirkwood [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:50 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Kirkwood wrote: WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: If there is a robbery on a train you would want a passenger to pull a gun and possibly shoot at the criminals? Seem like a total recipe for disaster. What if he misses? What if the bullet passes through? Is he then liable if he hits another passenger in the closed quarters of a train car? And what if the muggers start shooting back? Best case scenario is that the pulls the gun, and the guy runs away. But there is no where to run on the train. It seems more likely that something terrible would happen. Worse than losing a phone. No, you don't understand. The shooter was scared/threatened! Plus he had $50 bucks in his wallet. "If your property isn't as valuable as others, you have less of a right to hold onto it!" Sounds like you think it's simple to carry around a gun and go Rambo whenever you feel threatened. That's very chilling.

Author:	Darkside [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:54 pm ]
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Pulling a gun in a crowded area with 30 to 40 adversaries and plenty of innocent people around is a bad idea. I've got a couple credit cards with fraud protection and a cell phone. If they just want my wallet they won't get anything worthwhile out of it. I will not be engaging in that scenario. If someone tried to rape my wife or break my neck or had a deadly weapon at the ready I'll drop the hammer on them. If they break into my house they're making a bad mistake. In over 10 years of gun ownership I've never needed to pull it but I'm not afraid to. But over some plastic in my wallet in the presence of plenty of innocents? No.

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Author:	Caller Bob [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:19 pm ]
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I feel I need to remind everyone that John Rambo was the protagonist in Rambo trilogy.

Author:	Chus [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:17 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote: Douchebag wrote: badrogue17 wrote: :lol: Yep have to protect the minors right to privacy “We are in the process of pulling all surveillance video, and we will share with Oakland police, Oakland Unified School District and Oakland Housing Authority to see if they can help identify the minors,” Trost said. “We have had success with sharing images of juveniles with this group and identifying and making arrests in the past.”The images cannot be shared publicly, she said, because the attackers appear to be minors. Do you understand why names of minors are not released or are you just doing a bit? You worried about the cops yanking you out of class or something? Why would cops pull Douchebag out of class for something that happened in Oakland? I thought that this bit couldn't get any dumber, but I was wrong.

Author:	badrogue17 [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:25 pm ]
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The board already has a BRick . You should aspire to be better but then again , you can't .

Author:	Chus [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:59 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote: The board already has a BRick . You should aspire to be better but then again , you can't . Mad or drunk? Look, it's just a dumb bit, and today it got dumber. Trying to insult me isn't going to change that.

Author:	ToxicMasculinity [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:25 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: I know Kirkwood is a prototype beta, but is he seriously giving Ogie shit for not planning on voluntarily giving up his wallet and phone in the event of a mugging? Goddamn. The fuck is this country coming to? Kirkwood is Beta-Prime of the Deceptacucks I took the CCW class and I do carry. That said I know that carrying isn't something to take lightly. I go by the motto of the threat triad. Somebody has to have the intent, means, and opportunity to do great bodily harm me before I pull the weapon. Some punk kid threatening me on a train may have intent and opportunity but the means isn't there. Now if he pulls a weapon then I'll drop a body. I think about it like I did on deployment in the military. Is this going to be worth facing a trial? I also recommend anyone who carries should have a lawyer in their phone to call in case something happens.

Author:	DannyB [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:28 pm ]
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Kirkwood wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Kirkwood wrote: FavreFan wrote: I know Kirkwood is a prototype beta, but is he seriously giving Ogie shit for not planning on voluntarily giving up his wallet and phone in the event of a mugging? Goddamn. The fuck is this country coming to? Correct. Ogie is military trained. Great. Now what about the other CCW wackos like a Panther and his ilk who believe they're Batman because they have a license. I won't be convinced a wallet or phone is worth pulling a gun. "You don't have standing to defend yourself from armed/violent robbery" Come on, man. I never said it should be illegal or disallowed. I simply commented I think it's terrible that there is growing faction of paranoid gun owners scared of their own shadow. Their solution to any danger is...need gun. I think it's great. More guns in the hands of weak, nitwit Trump voters = more dead Trump voters. I love those stories about Trump voters leaving guns around their residences for their dumb kids to kill themselves with. It's so funny when that happens. Gotta thin the heard somehow, a great man once said.

Author:	SpiralStairs [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:36 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote: Is Bub Rub still patrolling the streets? I heard he and Lil Sis got married.

Author:	SpiralStairs [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:44 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Kirkwood wrote: FavreFan wrote: I know Kirkwood is a prototype beta, but is he seriously giving Ogie shit for not planning on voluntarily giving up his wallet and phone in the event of a mugging? Goddamn. The fuck is this country coming to? Correct. Ogie is military trained. Great. Now what about the other CCW wackos like a Panther and his ilk who believe they're Batman because they have a license. I won't be convinced a wallet or phone is worth pulling a gun. "You don't have standing to defend yourself from armed/violent robbery" Come on, man. What are those reasonable limits you were referring to earlier in this thread? If someone threatens to punch me in the face if I don't give them $20 is that license to shoot them? What if they only demand $5, $1?

Author:	SpiralStairs [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:49 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: SpiralStairs wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Kirkwood wrote: FavreFan wrote: I know Kirkwood is a prototype beta, but is he seriously giving Ogie shit for not planning on voluntarily giving up his wallet and phone in the event of a mugging? Goddamn. The fuck is this country coming to? Correct. Ogie is military trained. Great. Now what about the other CCW wackos like a Panther and his ilk who believe they're Batman because they have a license. I won't be convinced a wallet or phone is worth pulling a gun. "You don't have standing to defend yourself from armed/violent robbery" Come on, man. What are those reasonable limits you were referring to earlier in this thread? You know exactly what I meant by "reasonable". I really don't.

Author:	leashyourkids [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:54 pm ]
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Duty owed Duty breached Proximate cause Julie DiCaro