I was trying to respect your privacy, Leash YourKids.

I'm a big dumb shitlib baby

Sleepy Hollow? God the Jorr myths about me persist! I don't live in Sleepy Hollow.

Ruff, I only identify as a Libertarian because the modern Republican party no longer believes in small government and fiscal restrain. I believe in representative, limit government. I am also a huge fan of federalism, which serves this country well.

The rightful role of the Federal Government is the regulation of interstate commerce, control of a common currency, negotiation with foreign countries on treaties, and protection of the country. Most other functions are rightly reserved for state and local bodies. Now we are so far down the path of a large Federal Government and all its perverse functions, that folks like yourself cannot imagine a world without a nanny state. That's fine. My line of thinking has lost. I fully admit that.

You are correct that many theoretical parts of Libertarians cannot work in practice. Externalities like pollution can not be properly priced and thus need to be regulated and controlled.

Now I have answered all your inquiries of me. If you have more, I am sorry but I am done being trolled about this stuff.

For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.

Not a fair return- Approximately 40% of my earnings goes to the government. In return, I have crowded roads, airports, and an outdated Metra system. My local school district is poor quality. State universities are charging ridiculous amounts of money to students. The Medicare and Social Security system which I paid into will be insolvent before I get there.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

I agree more with Denis' philosophy the older I get.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

Yeah, it sucks, which is why people who make way more money than you do should pay more.

Didn't you support Bernie Sanders a year ago? "The older you get," damn, more like Chicago Progerics Message Board.

I'm a big dumb shitlib baby

I would still support him.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

I read David Stockman's, The Great Deformation. He literally ripped every President since FDR for so many terrible fiscal decisions. I was amazed at how many mistakes FDR made. In any case, the only President that he had good thoughts about was Ike. Apparently, post WW2 and Korean War, Ike would not cut tax rates until the debt was paid down significantly and spending cuts were enacted. He was true to fiscal balance.

Fair enough. I'm no Marxist, but I do think we need a severe market correction in the form of social democracy to counteract the years of Goldwaterism and neoliberalism that have been so terrible for a lot of people. The Republican Party was fine when it was just Dwight Eisenhower and stuffy Yankees.

I'm a big dumb shitlib baby

These people are self contained and really only thrive in the narrow world of internet outrage.

I am not a legal expert, how many times do I have to say it?

Yeah but the answer to inefficiency in government is obviously to expand the government.

I read David Stockman's, The Great Deformation. He literally ripped every President since FDR for so many terrible fiscal decisions. I was amazed at how many mistakes FDR made. In any case, the only President that he had good thoughts about was Ike. Apparently, post WW2 and Korean War, Ike would not cut tax rates until the debt was paid down significantly and spending cuts were enacted. He was true to fiscal balance.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

These people are self contained and really only thrive in the narrow world of internet outrage. More people hate them than like them and their day of reckoning for this shit is fast approaching.

Ike was the right guy for the right time and made a lot of sensible decisions while being about the best New Deal Republican there could be, which of course gave rise to the Goldwater wing. He certainly did a lot better than Joe Kennedy's second-favorite son, who almost got the whole world blown up in trying to prove he was tough.

In my mind, no person should have to give up that percentage of their income to a government. It is someone's lawful earnings...

Ike was the right guy for the right time and made a lot of sensible decisions while being about the best New Deal Republican there could be, which of course gave rise to the Goldwater wing. He certainly did a lot better than Joe Kennedy's second-favorite son, who almost got the whole world blown up in trying to prove he was tough.

For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.

a man shouldn't have to give up more than 49% of his income to the gov't. I don't care how much he makes.

Irony.

I could honestly deal with this messed up system since it does have benefits. What I have come to realize though, is no matter how much the government takes, it can never get enough.

Illinois:
$10B behind on its bills
$110B in underfunded pensions
$35B in debt.
Ongoing annual budget deficit
Highest sales and second highest property taxes in the nation.

Federal Government:
Nearly $20T in debt
Somewhere between $50-$75T in unfunded healthcare, pension and social security liabilities
Highest corporate tax rate in the developed world
15.3% of all income goes into Medicare and Social Security on top of income taxes
Marginal income tax rates on the rich at nearly 40%.
Hey, but we don't have a VAT tax!

The state and country is broke. Meaning, they need a lot more tax revenue to pay for all the stuff we get and have been getting. And I wonder who on this board feels like they don't pay enough in property taxes, license plate fees, sales taxes, payroll taxes, etc, etc?

Of course if we did the logical thing and sliced the military budget by 1/3rd, the CNBC crowd would be hysterical. An the fear mongering by MANY would be off the charts. And the welfare states would secede, again.

If we cut the military by 1/3rd democrats would lose their shit as much as republicans. Which is a pretty good sign it's a good idea.

It's a big reason I became a Ron Paul Republican. When I read about the extent of our military bases overseas and looked at our spending (higher than the next 10 biggest spenders combined), it is simply outrageous how much is being dumped on military. And we seem to be the world's biggest agitator.....

See on politics and the military I CAN agree with a libertarian!