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Seacrest is an Infowars-inspired whack job who makes assertions (not arguments) he believes are self-evident and either knowingly or unknowingly posts fake news. I fail to see why most everything he posts in political threads should be taken seriously until he undergoes serious reform.

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Bad day yesterday for board members that have spent the last couple of months reposting whatever bullshit the media spoon fed them. Lemmings.


You did post the lights out in the White House story, correct?


I am.

And did you find that in the media?


I had never heard about it until you posted it. I have to assume you got that from some media source.


But we have heard for months that this is Trump's final year and he will be charged after he obstructed justice. And we have seen MANY hear BELIEVE and push that narrative. Without a shred of evidence to support it.

Aren't you going to ask them why?


You're either missing or ignoring the point of my original post. You called out board members for posting "bullshit" stories spoon fed to them when you posted quite possibly one of the bigger bullshit stories of the political season on this board. And you still won't tell where you got it from.


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I don't care how you feel about Trump, Comey is just a fuckin' weasel. If they make a movie he should be played by Bob Gunton.

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I am busy enjoying myself in Chicago and not being too connected. Catch me up on this. Damage report please.

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I am busy enjoying myself in Chicago and not being too connected. Catch me up on this. Damage report please.
Trump is most likely just grossly incompetent rather than malicious.

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I am busy enjoying myself in Chicago and not being too connected. Catch me up on this. Damage report please.


You gonna be in Crystal Lake at all? T Here is this new play at Three Oaks Recreation, Dukes. Great time especially when the weather is nice.

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I don't care how you feel about Trump, Comey is just a fuckin' weasel. If they make a movie he should be played by Bob Gunton.


This is something that shouldn't get lost in all the passion surrounding the politics because someone is going to recruit him to run for office.

I'd have reservations about even hiring him as a lawyer.

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Seacrest is an Infowars-inspired whack job who makes assertions (not arguments) he believes are self-evident and either knowingly or unknowingly posts fake news. I fail to see why most everything he posts in political threads should be taken seriously until he undergoes serious reform.


Kind of like trying to have a serious conversation with an adult that believes that women are not equal to men and stands silent while devotees of his religion throw gay people off of buildings.

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I don't care how you feel about Trump, Comey is just a fuckin' weasel. If they make a movie he should be played by Bob Gunton.


This is something that shouldn't get lost in all the passion surrounding the politics because someone is going to recruit him to run for office.

I'd have reservations about even hiring him as a lawyer.


After yesterday, I think that MANY of us have finally found something during the reign of Trump that we can all agree on.

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I am busy enjoying myself in Chicago and not being too connected. Catch me up on this. Damage report please.


You gonna be in Crystal Lake at all? T Here is this new play at Three Oaks Recreation, Dukes. Great time especially when the weather is nice.


Staying SW burbs this time. In for a hit and run retirement party tomorrow. Gonna spend today with GF and kids at Navy Pier, millennium etc. funny my kids are from Chicago but don't remember much. So they are tourists. Last trip I took them through my youth.

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I am busy enjoying myself in Chicago and not being too connected. Catch me up on this. Damage report please.


You gonna be in Crystal Lake at all? T Here is this new play at Three Oaks Recreation, Dukes. Great time especially when the weather is nice.


Staying SW burbs this time. In for a hit and run retirement party tomorrow. Gonna spend today with GF and kids at Navy Pier, millennium etc. funny my kids are from Chicago but don't remember much. So they are tourists. Last trip I took them through my youth.


We can meet in the middle tomorrow in Hoffman Estates.

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Seacrest is an Infowars-inspired whack job who makes assertions (not arguments) he believes are self-evident and either knowingly or unknowingly posts fake news. I fail to see why most everything he posts in political threads should be taken seriously until he undergoes serious reform.


Kind of like trying to have a serious conversation with an adult that believes that women are not equal to men and stands silent while devotees of his religion throw gay people off of buildings.


So you go ad hominem when you've got no response. Got it. I'm actually pro-LGTBQ and don't have the types of beliefs about women that you seem to have for logic: that it's inferior. Anyway, you don't know shit about me so try keeping things on subject.

As usual, you deflected and didn't respond directly to the charges. That's fine, just not surprised. Let me try to reset things before you got sanctimoniously ugly: the charges Comey levied against Trump, while not what someone like Rachel Maddow might have wanted, are serious nonetheless. They validate pre-election concerns about Trump's fitness for office and his competency. Even Paul Ryan had to debase himself by saying basic things like the separation of branches of government to preserve their independence from one another is something that that Trump hasn't figured out yet because he's new to government. Monica Lewinsky respected the oval office better than Trump does.

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Seacrest is an Infowars-inspired whack job who makes assertions (not arguments) he believes are self-evident and either knowingly or unknowingly posts fake news. I fail to see why most everything he posts in political threads should be taken seriously until he undergoes serious reform.


Kind of like trying to have a serious conversation with an adult that believes that women are not equal to men and stands silent while devotees of his religion throw gay people off of buildings.


So you go ad hominem when you've got no response. Got it. I'm actually pro-LGTBQ and don't have the types of beliefs about women that you seem to have for logic: that it's inferior. Anyway, you don't know shit about me so try keeping things on subject.

As usual, you deflected and didn't respond directly to the charges. That's fine, just not surprised. Let me try to reset things before you got sanctimoniously ugly: the charges Comey levied against Trump, while not what someone like Rachel Maddow might have wanted, are serious nonetheless. They validate pre-election concerns about Trump's fitness for office and his competency. Even Paul Ryan had to debase himself by saying basic things like the separation of branches of government to preserve their independence from one another is something that that Trump hasn't figured out yet because he's new to government. Monica Lewinsky respected the oval office better than Trump does.


I gave up arguing about Comey yesterday because "I don't know anything about it."

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Seacrest is an Infowars-inspired whack job who makes assertions (not arguments) he believes are self-evident and either knowingly or unknowingly posts fake news. I fail to see why most everything he posts in political threads should be taken seriously until he undergoes serious reform.


Kind of like trying to have a serious conversation with an adult that believes that women are not equal to men and stands silent while devotees of his religion throw gay people off of buildings.


So you go ad hominem when you've got no response. Got it. I'm actually pro-LGTBQ and don't have the types of beliefs about women that you seem to have for logic: that it's inferior. Anyway, you don't know shit about me so try keeping things on subject.

As usual, you deflected and didn't respond directly to the charges. That's fine, just not surprised. Let me try to reset things before you got sanctimoniously ugly: the charges Comey levied against Trump, while not what someone like Rachel Maddow might have wanted, are serious nonetheless. They validate pre-election concerns about Trump's fitness for office and his competency. Even Paul Ryan had to debase himself by saying basic things like the separation of branches of government to preserve their independence from one another is something that that Trump hasn't figured out yet because he's new to government. Monica Lewinsky respected the oval office better than Trump does.

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you're a whack job
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Seacrest is an Infowars-inspired whack job who makes assertions (not arguments) he believes are self-evident and either knowingly or unknowingly posts fake news. I fail to see why most everything he posts in political threads should be taken seriously until he undergoes serious reform.


Kind of like trying to have a serious conversation with an adult that believes that women are not equal to men and stands silent while devotees of his religion throw gay people off of buildings.


So you go ad hominem when you've got no response. Got it. I'm actually pro-LGTBQ and don't have the types of beliefs about women that you seem to have for logic: that it's inferior. Anyway, you don't know shit about me so try keeping things on subject.

As usual, you deflected and didn't respond directly to the charges. That's fine, just not surprised. Let me try to reset things before you got sanctimoniously ugly: the charges Comey levied against Trump, while not what someone like Rachel Maddow might have wanted, are serious nonetheless. They validate pre-election concerns about Trump's fitness for office and his competency. Even Paul Ryan had to debase himself by saying basic things like the separation of branches of government to preserve their independence from one another is something that that Trump hasn't figured out yet because he's new to government. Monica Lewinsky respected the oval office better than Trump does.


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you're a whack job
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Yeah that was odd.

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I gave up arguing about Comey yesterday because "I don't know anything about it."

:cheers:


The problem with you is that you read news and reflect. :)

You and others probably made the same point I did after skimming through, so I probably should have mentioned that. Haven't read whole thread yet.
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oh yeah, just go ad hominem on me.


I don't have a problem with being criticized for that, but at the same time people calling out others for what they think are dumb arguments or positions is fairly routine. So the whack job thing came in the flow of other posts he made that me and a few others found weak and hypocritical. I doubt you've been reading the thread. I didn't use personal information about anyone to then make up positions I say they personally hold and then attack those positions because I'm too craven to respond to what's been said about my own thoughts. That's actually ad hominem plus a straw man in just one post - pretty impressive.

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Vegan, I just watched/listened to Comey live. And I posted my impressions. I have not been on the impeach Trump train. And I don't think Trump did anything illegal. But I thought Comey did a nice job overall and was smart about the way he played this. Yeah he's a weasel as I believe Jorr noted, but he is dealing with a sicko and had to protect himself.

The way the Senators treated him says a lot about Comey. Largely, both sides thanked Comey for his service and said he had a lot on credibility with the Intelligence committee.

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LOL @ legal protections? I 'm sure he slept well at night knowing that. He was speaking alone with the President who is a known narcissist and uses Twitter and lies at every turn. I doubt legal protections were tops on his mind when trying to figure out how to deal with Trump.


That's why he wanted someone from the Justice Department to meet with him when he was with Trump.

You're just laughing at yourself. You have no idea what you're talking about.


Here's what I was referring to Vegan.

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Vegan, I just watched/listened to Comey live. And I posted my impressions. I have not been on the impeach Trump train. And I don't think Trump did anything illegal. But I thought Comey did a nice job overall and was smart about the way he played this. Yeah he's a weasel as I believe Jorr noted, but he is dealing with a sicko and had to protect himself.

The way the Senators treated him says a lot about Comey. Largely, both sides thanked Comey for his service and said he had a lot on credibility with the Intelligence committee.


I guess this question is for JORR but also anyone else calling Comey a weasel. Why? Is it the writing memos thing? Honestly curious.

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The Orange Sensation is going to field questions at 1:45pm on CNN.


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The Orange Sensation is going to field questions at 1:45pm on CNN.


I should turn that on, but I think I'll stick with Pat Hughes. Mind updating us here....

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This will be the first time Trump has taken any questions in 22 days.

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Trump speaking about a "strategic partnership" with Romania. Blah blah blah.


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Trump dodging first question about Comey. Says, "No collusion, no obstruction. Comey is a leaker. Just an excuse by the Democrats for losing the election. Comey confirmed a lot of what I said. But most of what he said is simply not true."


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Asked if he would testify under oath to give his version of the story, Trump says "100 percent yes."

When asked if there are tapes, Trump says he'll "let us all know slowly and in the near future. But you will all be disappointed."


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And that's it.

Overall not much, but Trump double-downed on his claims that Comey is lying. He did say he'd be willing to say that under oath.


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