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Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:58 pm ]
Post subject:  US Destroyer collides with Japanese merchant ship
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/uss-fitzger ... se-vessel/

From the pictures I've seen, she looks to be down several feet at the bow and listing to starboard.. The list doesn't appear to be enough to capsize her as they likely counter-flooded some port compartments, but you can see her bow is down.

There is some video footage of them pumping to keep the ship afloat.

https://twitter.com/StratSentinel/statu ... 7721885697
Author:  Hatchetman [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:06 pm ]
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looks like somebody's dreams of being an admiral are over!
Author:  pittmike [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:06 pm ]
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Fucking Trump. Seriously what did it run into a container ship? Our vessels should be stronger.
Author:  Nas [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:09 pm ]
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Where is Truman when you need him?
Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:14 pm ]
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Asian drivers are the worst.
Author:  Godfella [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:14 pm ]
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Wow. That is a relatively small crew. By running bilge pumps, adjusting ballast and executing proper damage control, it shouldn't sink or capsize. You better believe that some people are in hot water with the Navy. No way this CO ever gets another command. The Officer of the Deck will be busted down in rank and most likely never advance again. That's a scary way to wake up in the middle of the night to alarms blaring over the intercom (1MC) on board a ship. Hope nobody was hurt.
Author:  Godfella [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:16 pm ]
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/uss-fitzgerald-collides-with-japanese-vessel/

From the pictures I've seen, she looks to be down several feet at the bow and listing to starboard.. The list doesn't appear to be enough to capsize her as they likely counter-flooded some port compartments, but you can see her bow is down.

There is some video footage of them pumping to keep the ship afloat.

https://twitter.com/StratSentinel/statu ... 7721885697

Ogle, you a Navy vet as well? You sound like one... :salut:
Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:53 pm ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
looks like somebody's dreams of being an admiral are over!

Even if it's 100% the fault of the Japanese cargo vessel, the CO, OOD, and Quartermaster are all finished. They will be court martialed and a bunch of other guys will get non-judicial punishment that will effectively end their careers.
Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:55 pm ]
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Godfella wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/uss-fitzgerald-collides-with-japanese-vessel/

From the pictures I've seen, she looks to be down several feet at the bow and listing to starboard.. The list doesn't appear to be enough to capsize her as they likely counter-flooded some port compartments, but you can see her bow is down.

There is some video footage of them pumping to keep the ship afloat.

https://twitter.com/StratSentinel/statu ... 7721885697

Ogle, you a Navy vet as well? You sound like one... :salut:

I was a Midshipman in NROTC who was on the track to a commission (was hoping to go SWO) until I developed an autoimmune disease that was determined to be disqualifying in the eyes of DoDMERB
Author:  Godfella [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:03 pm ]
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Godfella wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/uss-fitzgerald-collides-with-japanese-vessel/

From the pictures I've seen, she looks to be down several feet at the bow and listing to starboard.. The list doesn't appear to be enough to capsize her as they likely counter-flooded some port compartments, but you can see her bow is down.

There is some video footage of them pumping to keep the ship afloat.

https://twitter.com/StratSentinel/statu ... 7721885697

Ogle, you a Navy vet as well? You sound like one... :salut:

I was a Midshipman in NROTC who was on the track to a commission (was hoping to go SWO) until I developed an autoimmune disease that was determined to be disqualifying in the eyes of DoDMERB

That sucks. You put in a lot of work to have something like that knock you out. Sorry to hear that. I was in from 1983-1989. Served onboard a sub tender in Italy and made it out to Pearl Harbor for some shore duty. You are right on the money about the impending discipline coming to the personnel involved.
Author:  Cashman [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:07 pm ]
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Godfella wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Godfella wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/uss-fitzgerald-collides-with-japanese-vessel/

From the pictures I've seen, she looks to be down several feet at the bow and listing to starboard.. The list doesn't appear to be enough to capsize her as they likely counter-flooded some port compartments, but you can see her bow is down.

There is some video footage of them pumping to keep the ship afloat.

https://twitter.com/StratSentinel/statu ... 7721885697

Ogle, you a Navy vet as well? You sound like one... :salut:

I was a Midshipman in NROTC who was on the track to a commission (was hoping to go SWO) until I developed an autoimmune disease that was determined to be disqualifying in the eyes of DoDMERB

That sucks. You put in a lot of work to have something like that knock you out. Sorry to hear that. I was in from 1983-1989. Served onboard a sub tender in Italy and made it out to Pearl Harbor for some shore duty. You are right on the money about the impending discipline coming to the personnel involved.



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Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:25 pm ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
looks like somebody's dreams of being an admiral are over!

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Author:  Dignified Rube [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:27 pm ]
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Was Ditka driving?
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:27 pm ]
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Dignified Rube wrote:
Was Ditka driving?


Maybe Fisk.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:49 pm ]
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I'm ready to salvage with my Lloyds Open Form .
Author:  TurdFerguson [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:51 pm ]
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Author:  Dignified Rube [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:02 pm ]
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Peoria Matt wrote:
Dignified Rube wrote:
Was Ditka driving?


Maybe Fisk.


Can't rag on Fisk. My favorite White Sock of all-time.

#8 on North's List of Greatest Chicago Athletes! That's really high.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqupB5DpnU4

One of the greatest plays ever.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:14 pm ]
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On the US side, apparently two injured and seven missing. Yikes.
Author:  Regular Reader [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:27 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
On the US side, apparently two injured and seven missing. Yikes.


And the guy medivaced off may have been the ship's CO.

But God I hope they find the missing
Author:  pittmike [ Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:59 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
On the US side, apparently two injured and seven missing. Yikes.


And the guy medivaced off may have been the ship's CO.

But God I hope they find the missing


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Author:  312player [ Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:23 am ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
looks like somebody's dreams of being an admiral are over!




Depends who he's related to, look at that boob McCain.. He crashed 3 planes and kept moving up because his daddy was an admiral.
Author:  Godfella [ Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:03 am ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
On the US side, apparently two injured and seven missing. Yikes.

Not good. CNN reporting that the seven missing are believed to be in a berthing space that was hit. That means those guys were most likely sleeping at impact and the compartment took on heavy flooding thus causing the duty damage control personnel to secure all hatches to contain the flooding. In short, they have all drowned and won't be recovered until they can get the ship in port and lifted enough to drain or pump out the sea water from the effected spaces. Ugh.
Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:37 am ]
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Godfella wrote:
Wow. That is a relatively small crew.



This is like a plate o' shrimp. I was just talking to a friend last night who is from a military family. He was an Air Force guy but his dad was a Navy man who was on the U.S.S. Indianapolis. This guy knows a lot about Naval vessels. He mentioned that he was shocked at how small a destroyer crew was these days, like 26 guys.
Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:03 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Godfella wrote:
Wow. That is a relatively small crew.



This is like a plate o' shrimp. I was just talking to a friend last night who is from a military family. He was an Air Force guy but his dad was a Navy man who was on the U.S.S. Indianapolis. This guy knows a lot about Naval vessels. He mentioned that he was shocked at how small a destroyer crew was these days, like 26 guys.

Maybe on a patrol boat the crew is that size, but a DDG like this ship has a crew of ~300, which is indeed small as a ship of that displacement 60 years ago would have probably 800 on the crew.

The new littoral combat ships do indeed have small crews (and also are overpriced and under-armed). They displace over 3,000 tons and have a crew of only 50 or so.
Author:  Godfella [ Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:22 am ]
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They found the missing...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/18 ... royer.html
Author:  312player [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:23 am ]
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What a shitty way to die, getting locked in your cabin by your own guys while it slowly floods. Any way to give me 10 seconds to evacuate?
Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:32 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
but his dad was a Navy man who was on the U.S.S. Indianapolis. This guy knows a lot about Naval vessels.


Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies...
Author:  312player [ Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:04 pm ]
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So this merchant ship that rammed us did a Uturn and didn't even report the crash for an hour.

This seems like its becoming obvious this was an intentional act, maybe somebody hacked that ship when they knew everybody was sleeping. I'm assuming that the ship was on auto pilot.
Author:  Godfella [ Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:29 pm ]
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Ogie, what do you think?

Discipline is handed out...


http://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-40970860
Author:  BeerFan [ Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:24 pm ]
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The Real Reason the US Navy Keeps Hitting Merchant Vessels
http://inhomelandsecurity.com/reason-na ... 0170912IHS

30 year retired Navy Capt (20 at sea) explains wtf happened.
It's along read so just assume...Thanks, Obama!

"There is no way on my ships that would have happened. We always had direct leadership. Leadership that was there, present and capable. I am willing to bet that those ships involved in incidents with merchants had all their sexual orientation, transgender training, and environmental training all completed at the expense of the safety and operational training.

If you put the emphasis on social issues, you get a social force. If you put it on operational issues, you get an operational force."

[further down]
"In addition, it has been obvious to me that SECNAV Mabus was able to transform naval leadership in a way to conform to his world view; [that he] fired or relieved those who did not conform to his views and promoted those that did. I think the top leadership is pretty rotten, although I am sure there is “good wood” in there somewhere."


"hard to starboard"--Capt Gloria
"ma'am, i think you mean to port or left"--helmsman


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