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Obama authorized over 10 times more drone strikes than George W Bush, and automatically painted all males of military age in these regions as combatants, making them fair game for remote controlled killing.


Obama being a war hawk was the most surprising part of his presidency.

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Obama authorized over 10 times more drone strikes than George W Bush, and automatically painted all males of military age in these regions as combatants, making them fair game for remote controlled killing.


Obama being a war hawk was the most surprising part of his presidency.


And isn't that reclassification of "enemy combatant" a big part of how "surgical" his supporters said his authorized strikes were getting? It's not [necessarily or just] that they acted on better intel to reduce civilian casualties, they just [or also] stopped classifying certain people as "civilian" irrespective of intelligence.


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I think you need a PR guy to help with the slogan.


Control the message. Get out in front of it.



Ignore the information contained in article. Ill suited for propaganda campaign regarding Islamic threat.

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Obama authorized over 10 times more drone strikes than George W Bush, and automatically painted all males of military age in these regions as combatants, making them fair game for remote controlled killing.


Obama being a war hawk was the most surprising part of his presidency.


And isn't that reclassification of "enemy combatant" a big part of how "surgical" his supporters said his authorized strikes were getting? It's not [necessarily or just] that they acted on better intel to reduce civilian casualties, they just [or also] stopped classifying certain people as "civilian" irrespective of intelligence.



American bombing of Muslim countries is turning out to be a bi-partisan effort.

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Obama authorized over 10 times more drone strikes than George W Bush, and automatically painted all males of military age in these regions as combatants, making them fair game for remote controlled killing.


Obama being a war hawk was the most surprising part of his presidency.



Obama was a con man in a lot of respects.

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Obama authorized over 10 times more drone strikes than George W Bush, and automatically painted all males of military age in these regions as combatants, making them fair game for remote controlled killing.


Obama being a war hawk was the most surprising part of his presidency.



Obama was a con man in a lot of respects.


Pretty racist.

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We should also be bombing European countries.

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We should also be bombing European countries.


Nah,I think the Muslims got that covered

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Obama authorized over 10 times more drone strikes than George W Bush, and automatically painted all males of military age in these regions as combatants, making them fair game for remote controlled killing.


Obama being a war hawk was the most surprising part of his presidency.


And isn't that reclassification of "enemy combatant" a big part of how "surgical" his supporters said his authorized strikes were getting? It's not [necessarily or just] that they acted on better intel to reduce civilian casualties, they just [or also] stopped classifying certain people as "civilian" irrespective of intelligence.



American bombing of Muslim countries is turning out to be a bi-partisan effort.

Yup. I'm surprised Republicans hated Obama so much. He killed more Muslims than every other President combined. They should be thanking him.

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And yet Rep. Barbara Lee's bill to rescind the AUMF continues to be blocked from a vote. (For going on 15 years now)

Shameful.

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Thanks, Obama.
An horrible serial killer is our Barry. Like Many other SerKil guys he's also a narcissist.
Some are saying "sociopathic narcissist"when referring to Him. Others demur, preferring "narcissistic sociopath", which is probably the correct way to characterize The One.
Barry got more kills than even Gosnell.
But Trump is a Nazi.

Dead cops don't add-officially-to Soetero's score but we all know they could.
6 more BlueBloods shot last night. One KIA.
Thanks, B.Hussein. May all your children be un masculine.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Obama authorized over 10 times more drone strikes than George W Bush, and automatically painted all males of military age in these regions as combatants, making them fair game for remote controlled killing.


Obama being a war hawk was the most surprising part of his presidency.


And isn't that reclassification of "enemy combatant" a big part of how "surgical" his supporters said his authorized strikes were getting? It's not [necessarily or just] that they acted on better intel to reduce civilian casualties, they just [or also] stopped classifying certain people as "civilian" irrespective of intelligence.



American bombing of Muslim countries is turning out to be a bi-partisan effort.

Yup. I'm surprised Republicans hated Obama so much. He killed more Muslims than every other President combined. They should be thanking him.



Left/Right Divide is suspended when it comes to our "wars". "War on Terror" has played out similarly to the ill fated "War on Communism" of years past.

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Obama authorized over 10 times more drone strikes than George W Bush, and automatically painted all males of military age in these regions as combatants, making them fair game for remote controlled killing.


Obama being a war hawk was the most surprising part of his presidency.



ya that was super disappointing. he was a neo-con man thru and thru. His foreign policy was no different that W's. :(


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Obama authorized over 10 times more drone strikes than George W Bush, and automatically painted all males of military age in these regions as combatants, making them fair game for remote controlled killing.


Obama being a war hawk was the most surprising part of his presidency.



ya that was super disappointing. he was a neo-con man thru and thru. His foreign policy was no different that W's. :(


That's a bit much

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Obama authorized over 10 times more drone strikes than George W Bush, and automatically painted all males of military age in these regions as combatants, making them fair game for remote controlled killing.


Obama being a war hawk was the most surprising part of his presidency.



ya that was super disappointing. he was a neo-con man thru and thru. His foreign policy was no different that W's. :(


That's a bit much



take the blinders off. He was just as bad as W. Sure he didnt invade any countries but his policies were the same as if W had 2 more terms in office.


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Obama authorized over 10 times more drone strikes than George W Bush, and automatically painted all males of military age in these regions as combatants, making them fair game for remote controlled killing.


Obama being a war hawk was the most surprising part of his presidency.



ya that was super disappointing. he was a neo-con man thru and thru. His foreign policy was no different that W's. :(


That's a bit much


Maybe a bit but not a whole lot.

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You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually it's quite fun to fight them, you know. It's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up there with you. I like brawling.

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leashyourkids wrote:
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HawaiiYou wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
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Obama authorized over 10 times more drone strikes than George W Bush, and automatically painted all males of military age in these regions as combatants, making them fair game for remote controlled killing.


Obama being a war hawk was the most surprising part of his presidency.



ya that was super disappointing. he was a neo-con man thru and thru. His foreign policy was no different that W's. :(


That's a bit much


Maybe a bit but not a whole lot.


Yes.

But I've never confused him with a great President. In my book he was akin to a good "game manager"

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You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually it's quite fun to fight them, you know. It's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up there with you. I like brawling.

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cultural differences. but this guy reminds me of someone who likes to talk big shit but eventually does nothing.


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leashyourkids wrote:
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HawaiiYou wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
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Obama authorized over 10 times more drone strikes than George W Bush, and automatically painted all males of military age in these regions as combatants, making them fair game for remote controlled killing.


Obama being a war hawk was the most surprising part of his presidency.



ya that was super disappointing. he was a neo-con man thru and thru. His foreign policy was no different that W's. :(


That's a bit much


Maybe a bit but not a whole lot.


No the difference was if Bush warned or threatened you he followed through with it. He did not make red lines and keep moving them or fucking with countries half-assed. Honestly do you think anything close to Benghazi would have happened under him? The 173rd would have been dropped pell mell on the compound within the first 2-3 hours or some more spec ops guys would have been there.

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You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually it's quite fun to fight them, you know. It's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up there with you. I like brawling.

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cultural differences. but this guy reminds me of someone who likes to talk big shit but eventually does nothing.




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Regular Reader wrote:
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HawaiiYou wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
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Obama authorized over 10 times more drone strikes than George W Bush, and automatically painted all males of military age in these regions as combatants, making them fair game for remote controlled killing.


Obama being a war hawk was the most surprising part of his presidency.



ya that was super disappointing. he was a neo-con man thru and thru. His foreign policy was no different that W's. :(


That's a bit much


Maybe a bit but not a whole lot.


Yes.

But I've never confused him with a great President. In my book he was akin to a good "game manager"


I liked him. i compare him to Reagan.

Reagan was the right man for the right time. Everyone wanted to forget about the 70s. It was a bad decade for this country for all the reasons we all know. Whatever you may say about his politics, the best thing Reagan did was bring confidence and pride back into this country which was missing for at least 17 years since. As others who lived during Reagan's Presidency, he was a middle of the road president. Not a right wing wacko the extreme left and extreme right would like you to believe.

Obama was the same way. The right man for the right time. After Bush W fucked up economically and militarily, whatever you may say about Obama's politics, he was the guy the country needed that portrayed a calm confidence and competency compared to the previous fuck ups.


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leashyourkids wrote:
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HawaiiYou wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
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Obama authorized over 10 times more drone strikes than George W Bush, and automatically painted all males of military age in these regions as combatants, making them fair game for remote controlled killing.


Obama being a war hawk was the most surprising part of his presidency.



ya that was super disappointing. he was a neo-con man thru and thru. His foreign policy was no different that W's. :(


That's a bit much


Maybe a bit but not a whole lot.


No the difference was if Bush warned or threatened you he followed through with it. He did not make red lines and keep moving them or fucking with countries half-assed. Honestly do you think anything close to Benghazi would have happened under him? The 173rd would have been dropped pell mell on the compound within the first 2-3 hours or some more spec ops guys would have been there.


they were 2 extremes. Bush was all out war no questions asked and Obama was lets not get involved in anything unless it threatens national security or the homeland.


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One of Pres Obamas biggest mistakes was not attaching conditions to the Bank bailouts

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chaspoppcap wrote:
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You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually it's quite fun to fight them, you know. It's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up there with you. I like brawling.

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cultural differences. but this guy reminds me of someone who likes to talk big shit but eventually does nothing.




Defense Distinguished Service Medal (2)
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and??.......... General Westmoreland had a great resume as well but he shit the bed in Vietnam.


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