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They have stated they won't seat him in the Senate.

Source please?
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I just assume everything you post my way is antagonistic. :lol: :lol:


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 859313001/

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/ ... ion-244907

:lol: That's a fair cop; that's why I included it.

Now technically, they (as a group) haven't said they won't, it was more of a "it's possible".

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Don Tiny wrote:
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They have stated they won't seat him in the Senate.

Source please?
(not asked antagonistically)


I just assume everything you post my way is antagonistic. :lol: :lol:


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 859313001/

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/ ... ion-244907

:lol: That's a fair cop; that's why I included it.


:lol: :lol:

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Seems like ol' Mitch has had time to think about it again...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mitch-mcconn ... 26428.html

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Seems like ol' Mitch has had time to think about it again...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mitch-mcconn ... 26428.html


Did you honestly expect anything else?

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Seems like ol' Mitch has had time to think about it again...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mitch-mcconn ... 26428.html


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Of course the tax cut will benefit the rich. They are the people who tend to spend a lot of money and start companies. If it does as stated and encourages wealth to come back then it will help the country. I do like the national sales tax design. Everyone gets 10K back at the end of the year no income tax or IRS.

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Seems like ol' Mitch has had time to think about it again...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mitch-mcconn ... 26428.html


:lol:


https://www.yahoo.com/news/mitch-mcconn ... 26428.html

I just saw this. WTF? Get rid of them all.

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Depending on the version of the tax bill passed, the inheritance tax could be removed as soon as 2023. The McCaskey dynasty can continue!


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The president officially endorsed him again.

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The president officially endorsed him again.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:19 am 
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Of course the tax cut will benefit the rich. They are the people who tend to spend a lot of money and start companies. If it does as stated and encourages wealth to come back then it will help the country. I do like the national sales tax design. Everyone gets 10K back at the end of the year no income tax or IRS.

You realize Trickle Down has been disproven like 100 times right?


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Honest question. If the tax bill can impose a 20% tariff on goods imported(?) from Puerto Rico, why not Guam, Alaska or Nebraska next?

And anti pork folks, how does Alaskan drilling and abortion make it into a tax bill?

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Nas wrote:
The president officially endorsed him again.


Needs his vote in congress.

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The president officially endorsed him again.


For the most part, I'm an innocent until proven guilty guy. If this was one accusation, I'd be more inclined to think cynically and deflect it as a smear job. When it is multiple accusations...I don't know how you just look the other way. Politics over common sense. Instead of saying 'We need all the GOP votes we can get!!' why not actually build consensus and do some horse trading so that you get a bill that some Democrats can vote for. It isn't a football game that you are trying to win, its the fucking country. We all win or lose together. Fuck. I'm just sick of this.

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It doesn't matter if he's guilty or not. Either way its more important that the liberals lose. In every struggle one must align themselves with people they would rather not associate themselves with, but we do it for the greater good.


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The president officially endorsed him again.


For the most part, I'm an innocent until proven guilty guy. If this was one accusation, I'd be more inclined to think cynically and deflect it as a smear job. When it is multiple accusations...I don't know how you just look the other way. Politics over common sense. Instead of saying 'We need all the GOP votes we can get!!' why not actually build consensus and do some horse trading so that you get a bill that some Democrats can vote for. It isn't a football game that you are trying to win, its the fucking country. We all win or lose together. Fuck. I'm just sick of this.


He should not be able to hold office but it's not like the party of Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton would have done different.

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The president officially endorsed him again.


For the most part, I'm an innocent until proven guilty guy. If this was one accusation, I'd be more inclined to think cynically and deflect it as a smear job. When it is multiple accusations...I don't know how you just look the other way. Politics over common sense. Instead of saying 'We need all the GOP votes we can get!!' why not actually build consensus and do some horse trading so that you get a bill that some Democrats can vote for. It isn't a football game that you are trying to win, its the fucking country. We all win or lose together. Fuck. I'm just sick of this.


I agree. His comments after they spoke out disqualify him to me just as much as the accusations. When you include his statement about first seeing his wife at a fucking school dance when he was in his 30's I don't see how anyone could support him.

It felt like we could at least unite on things this like this in the past. No one gives a fuck about the country now. It's all about what tribe you're affiliated with. This way of thinking will set this country back generations.

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I agree. His comments after they spoke out disqualify him to me just as much as the accusations. When you include his statement about first seeing his wife at a fucking school dance when he was in his 30's I don't see how anyone could support him.

It felt like we could at least unite on things this like this in the past. No one gives a fuck about the country now. It's all about what tribe you're affiliated with. This way of thinking will set this country back generations.


It started when we sportsified (nice made up word eh?) politics. 24 hr news channels, talking head panel shows... John King and his stupid ass telestrator, all he is missing is a BOOM!! and he'd be like Madden. They've turned it into a sport and so there must be clear teams, us vs them. Someone has to win or why bother following it?? Its why our only hope is a third party because then you have to build consensus. No will have enough players to field a full team.

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Its why our only hope is a third party because then you have to build consensus. No will have enough players to field a full team.

Understand that a third party would be one to the left of the Democrats, like Canada's NDP, not this mythical "common sense party" that seeks to build consensus between conservative/neoliberal Democrats and intransigent Republicans.

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Its why our only hope is a third party because then you have to build consensus. No will have enough players to field a full team.

Understand that a third party would be one to the left of the Democrats, like Canada's NDP, not this mythical "common sense party" that seeks to build consensus between conservative/neoliberal Democrats and intransigent Republicans.

What the people of America really want is Michael Bloomberg!


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Its why our only hope is a third party because then you have to build consensus. No will have enough players to field a full team.

Understand that a third party would be one to the left of the Democrats, like Canada's NDP, not this mythical "common sense party" that seeks to build consensus between conservative/neoliberal Democrats and intransigent Republicans.



So pussy hats and preferred pronouns?

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It doesn't matter if he's guilty or not. Either way its more important that the liberals lose. In every struggle one must align themselves with people they would rather not associate themselves with, but we do it for the greater good.


What is your definition of the "greater good"? What kind of society do you want? This is a sincere question.

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It doesn't matter if he's guilty or not. Either way its more important that the liberals lose. In every struggle one must align themselves with people they would rather not associate themselves with, but we do it for the greater good.


What is your definition of the "greater good"? What kind of society do you want? This is a sincere question.

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I agree. His comments after they spoke out disqualify him to me just as much as the accusations. When you include his statement about first seeing his wife at a fucking school dance when he was in his 30's I don't see how anyone could support him.

It felt like we could at least unite on things this like this in the past. No one gives a fuck about the country now. It's all about what tribe you're affiliated with. This way of thinking will set this country back generations.


It started when we sportsified (nice made up word eh?) politics. 24 hr news channels, talking head panel shows... John King and his stupid ass telestrator, all he is missing is a BOOM!! and he'd be like Madden. They've turned it into a sport and so there must be clear teams, us vs them. Someone has to win or why bother following it?? Its why our only hope is a third party because then you have to build consensus. No will have enough players to field a full team.


Think about the fact that there is a significant portion of this country that accepts how he met his wife as a 16 year old kid as reasonable. Frightening.

I generally agree with the rest of your final premise, except that I think they were more rocket fuel :wink: on the fire started by the moral majority types that really started the divide after they regrouped from their losses of the Civil Rights era.

If not the Powell memo, you certainly can look at the Bakke vs. Univ. of California case as the clear starting point for this "tea party" crowd.

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It doesn't matter if he's guilty or not. Either way its more important that the liberals lose. In every struggle one must align themselves with people they would rather not associate themselves with, but we do it for the greater good.


What is your definition of the "greater good"? What kind of society do you want? This is a sincere question.


It sounds like he wants more child molesters.

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It doesn't matter if he's guilty or not. Either way its more important that the liberals lose. In every struggle one must align themselves with people they would rather not associate themselves with, but we do it for the greater good.


What is your definition of the "greater good"? What kind of society do you want? This is a sincere question.

Unlike me, this oughta be rich ...

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I agree. His comments after they spoke out disqualify him to me just as much as the accusations. When you include his statement about first seeing his wife at a fucking school dance when he was in his 30's I don't see how anyone could support him.

It felt like we could at least unite on things this like this in the past. No one gives a fuck about the country now. It's all about what tribe you're affiliated with. This way of thinking will set this country back generations.


It started when we sportsified (nice made up word eh?) politics. 24 hr news channels, talking head panel shows... John King and his stupid ass telestrator, all he is missing is a BOOM!! and he'd be like Madden. They've turned it into a sport and so there must be clear teams, us vs them. Someone has to win or why bother following it?? Its why our only hope is a third party because then you have to build consensus. No will have enough players to field a full team.


Think about the fact that there is a significant portion of this country that accepts how he met his wife as a 16 year old kid as reasonable. Frightening.

I generally agree with the rest of your final premise, except that I think they were more rocket fuel :wink: on the fire started by the moral majority types that really started the divide after they regrouped from their losses of the Civil Rights era.

If not the Powell memo, you certainly can look at the Bakke vs. Univ. of California case as the clear starting point for this "tea party" crowd.


Hey! The story of Celine Dion and her husband is a love story for the ages! Stop! :lol:

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As of a half hour ago the weasels from the party of pedophiles were hand writing amendments to the 500 page tax giveaway bill in the margins.


Party of pedophiles indeed. The RNC now fully supports Roy Moore.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/36 ... in-alabama

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As of a half hour ago the weasels from the party of pedophiles were hand writing amendments to the 500 page tax giveaway bill in the margins.


Party of pedophiles indeed. The RNC now fully supports Roy Moore.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/36 ... in-alabama


Nelson Rockefeller, Jack Kemp AND Barry Goldwater are rolling over in their graves.

And that worm Ted Cruz is crafting his limp wristed welcome

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